On Oct 13, 2005, at 10:08 PM, Dinesh Nair wrote:

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> On 10/14/05 15:10 Jim Thompson said the following:
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>> which doesn't explain why people are able to run JVMs in cell  
>> phones  with less memory
>> than the cache on your machine.
>>
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> very much reduced instruction set. to handle this, i doubt we have  
> the resources to maintain a reduced instruction set JVM for m0n0wall.

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you've said here.

If you mean that the JVM found in "handsets" (phones) has fewer JVM  
'instructions" (op codes), then I recommend that you go take a look,
as it isn't "Java" without all the standard opcodes.   That said,  
JVMs exist for 8051s (and all kinds of "bigger" CPUs.)

What *is* missing from the smaller JVMs is the plethora of libraries  
that you get with Java (and perl, php, python, ruby, etc...)

If you meant something else, please explain.

>> Also, no need to fork per-request or thread, we've known how to  
>> use  select() (and poll()) for a long time.
>
> which may make sense, since we wouldnt expect the daemon to handle  
> thousands of requests per second. 50 or so would suffice.

typical m0n0 h/w isn't MP, either.

Still, you don't need threads to go fast.  Check out thttpd (http:// 
www.acme.com/software/thttpd/benchmarks.html#rps),

and then note that its not threaded, and it doesn't fork().

and yes, the topic is starting to wander a long way from m0n0 futures.

jim