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 From:  Fernando Costa <cusquinho at gmail dot com>
 To:  m0n0wall dash dev at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
 Subject:  Re: [m0n0wall-dev] UPNP
 Date:  Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:13:35 -0200
Ok, I'll not talk about this topic anymore. Don't think "horrible
idea" is the best way to describe it. I see it as an optional function
that could be used in some cases, such as home users. I know Cisco
wont put that in their routers, but they do put UPNP in their home
users Linksys routers. And still, lots of applications come with UPNP
and Windows Vista has a good work on that.

I also want to mention that I do agree this is not a high priority
TODO. It's just a cool feature that could be added (again, as
optional) in the future. There is no need to be "rude" about that.


On 10/19/05, Aaron K. Moore <amoore at dekalbmemorial dot com> wrote:
> I agree.  UPNP is a horrible idea, which is why common security
> practices have you turn it off on any workstations and on the router if
> it's supported.  It's bad enough that a bunch of applications can now
> encapsulate their data in http packets.
> Andrew Lewis wrote:
> <snip>
> > I disagree.  If you need upnp to configure your firewall you have
> > already lost.
> >
> > Honestly I think a home user would be better off without it.  How many
> > home users do the zombie "Accept and Install" now when they get
> > pop-ups?
> >
> > Dumbing down m0n0wall to that degree only makes it look dumb.
> >
> > There are other deficiencies in M0n0wall that need more attention...
> --
> Aaron Kent Moore
> Information Technology Services
> DeKalb Memorial Hospital, Inc.
> Auburn, IN
> Phone:  260.920.2808
> E-mail:  amoore at dekalbmemorial dot com
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