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 From:  Andres Petralli <apetralli at icu dot unizh dot ch>
 To:  Bart Smit <bit at pipe dot nl>
 Cc:  m0n0wall dash dev at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
 Subject:  Re: [m0n0wall-dev] UPNP
 Date:  Tue, 25 Oct 2005 16:32:55 +0200
On 25.10.2005, at 12:00, Bart Smit wrote:

> Supporting flawed protocols goes a long way towards aiding their
> acceptance. If firewalls generally support uPNP, there is no barrier
> anymore against its use. Is this something m0n0wall wants to do? Do we
> really want to remove friction for uPNP? I thought that "educating
> users" was rather high on the list of essential security measures.

I didn't say UPNP has no issues! But I also said it might be useful  
under some circumstances. I thought, I gave plenty of scenarios for  

> Now don't give me the "but everybody else is doing uPNP", because I

I never used that argument.

> don't buy it. If little Johnny would jump into the river, would you
> too?

Ok, that's enough. We don't have to discuss at this level, do we?