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 From:  "Chris Dickens" <chris at object dash zone dot net>
 To:  "'Lee Sharp'" <leesharp at hal dash pc dot org>, <m0n0wall dash dev at lists dot m0n0 dot ch>
 Subject:  RE: [m0n0wall-dev] $1000 prize for FreeBSD 6.1 port of m0n0wall
 Date:  Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:50:02 -0400
Haha - why would anyone be taking your hammer away?  Nobody said you needed
to stop using the existing m0n0wall version you have.  I'm still using m0n0
v1.0 in my primary firewall because I need nothing from newer releases - and
I don't fix anything that isn't broken.  :-)


-----Original Message-----
From: Lee Sharp [mailto:leesharp at hal dash pc dot org] 
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 1:06 AM
To: m0n0wall dash dev at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
Subject: Re: [m0n0wall-dev] $1000 prize for FreeBSD 6.1 port of m0n0wall

From: "Joe N." <jnardone at gmail dot com>
> Frederick Page wrote:
>> Indeed that raises the question: why not melt the m0n0wall into the
>> pfSense project and work together? Instead of copying pfSense?

> My biggest problem with pfSense is footprint.  I want to be able to run 
> this in RAM and not need a hard disk or large solid-state storage to hold 
> it.  I wouldn't mind a merged project, but only if there was a "slim" 
> version that was essentially the core M0n0wall functionality.

The small footprint and running in ram is a deal breaker for me.  I have a 
mix of HD and CF, but my largest CF is 16mb, and some are 8mb.  (ram is 
128-256)  The fact that a running firewall will not die from an HD failure 
is important.  It also aids in troubleshooting.  Sudden flake without a save

flash or reboot?  It HAS to be cpu or ram.  Runs fine, but dies on a save, 
flash or reboot?  HD/Cf died...  Runs for a while and crashes regular?  Heat

problem or power supply.  You have to love that.  With appropriate spares, 
and a library of config files, I can have a downed box up in the time it 
takes to get there.

All that said, a little melting would be a good thing.  In some cases a 
bigger platform with easy plugins would be helpful.  Perhaps a bidirectional

config file upgrade tool would be made.  I am all for having lots of tools 
in a toolbox, and one that is familiar is better.  But don't take away my 

> ps: and no, given a choice of Windows, I still would have picked FreeBSD 
> because that's the lowest risk AND greatest reward platform for most of 
> the requirements gathered during Manuel's poll.

One of the benefits to me was that it is NOT a common platform.  Popular 
platforms are the first ones hacked.


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