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 From:  "Alex M" <radiussupport at lrcommunications dot net>
 To:  "'Mono Dev List'" <m0n0wall dash dev at lists dot m0n0 dot ch>
 Subject:  RE: [m0n0wall-dev] Re: [m0n0wall] Support for hardware project
 Date:  Tue, 6 Mar 2007 13:37:36 -0500
I don't like guessing game so I requested quote and quantity requirements
for 32Mb Flash / 128Mb ram
Let's see if we still can force manufacturer to give the $50 for
distributors. 

I will also put the list of alternative boards. And post the link here. I
want something under $100 total retail, and small size factor





-----Original Message-----
From: Lee Sharp [mailto:leesharp at hal dash pc dot org] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 11:30 AM
Cc: 'Mono Dev List'; Monowall Support List
Subject: [m0n0wall-dev] Re: [m0n0wall] Support for hardware project

Jim Thompson wrote:

> I'd answer, but ... that would be commercial, and this is a 
> non-commercial list.

This is EXACTLY the type of "commercial" information that is appropriate 
to the list.  You are not pushing your product, but providing on topic 
information.  I fine line, but a significant one.  As someone else with 
a commercial interest, I am not at all bothered by this post.

> You may wish to take a serious look at how much of m0n0wall you're going 
> to be able to squeeze into that 4MB flash on the WP54, and how well
> FreeBSD is going to run in 16MB of memory.  Oh sure, you can put more 
> dram on the board, but it won't cost $75 then.

This is now a deal breaker.  I had not looked at the hardware at all 
when I expressed my interest.  The amount of stripping to make it fit 
would make m0n0wall unacceptable.  The amount of money to upgrade it to 
  16mb flash and 128mb ram would make it no longer cost effective.

What I use as a currently available benchmark is a VIA based system.
System board	$115
http://www.directron.com/epia800.html
Memory 128mb	$16
Additional NIC	$5 (Duel or quad port possible)
Small Case	$65
http://www.directron.com/2699r.html
IDE Flash Drive	$18
http://ec.transcendusa.com/product/ItemDetail.asp?ItemID=TS32MDOM40V
Total $219

This system is small rock solid, very well performing, and readily 
available with no notice.  The only failure I have had was someone who 
put a potted plant on top and over watered it.  (Seriously...)  To try 
something new, it would have to offer substantial advantages over this.

That said, most of my systems are off-lease small form factor Dell 
systems.  I pay between $50-$75 for the system, and add a nic.  In this 
case, a smaller option for more money would be an advantage.

Disclaimer.  Directron is not my company.  I am a customer.  I have no 
financial interest in any company above.

			Lee


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