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 From:  "Quark IT - Hilton Travis" <Hilton at quarkit dot com dot au>
 To:  "Mono Dev List" <m0n0wall dash dev at lists dot m0n0 dot ch>
 Subject:  RE: [m0n0wall-dev] RE: [m0n0wall] RE: [m0n0wall-dev] Re: [m0n0wall] Support for hardware project
 Date:  Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:54:51 +1000

We're looking at using an MSI Axis 945GM system for our needs.  2
onboard GbE, takes a Core 2 Duo (ie, a CPU likely to be available for a
while, with any luck) and up to 4 GB RAM and onboard SATA RAID (if you
call mobo controller RAID, RAID).  The mainboard is actually a Mini-ITX
mainboard, therefore the box is relatively small at only 300mm W * 363mm
D * 72mm H.

Admittedly, this box will be used in a few of our projects, but
unfortunately due to its lacj of S-P/DIF output, we cannot use it for
Media PC applications - it was soooooo close to being the perfect



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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alex M [mailto:radiussupport at lrcommunications dot net] 
> Sent: Sunday, 11 March 2007 03:56
> Ok that the moment we down to $100 for WP18,
> I still looking for something closer to $50 
> 3 mode manufacturers to call
> I also found our old project where we made the board 
> for $10, I have to find who was the manufacturer and 
> if they would be able to increase flash, since that 
> board had only 1mb
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Thompson [mailto:jim at netgate dot com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 10:44 PM
> On Mar 6, 2007, at 5:05 PM, Alex M wrote:
> >>> But you're the one that proposed using VIA boards and 
> >>> second-source ethernet cards and wanted to make the 
> >>> centerpiece of the discussion "price".
> >
> > No, that was Lee talking about VIA board, I only concerned 
> about price
> K.
> >>> I presume that the members of the list want to discuss the
> >>> development of m0n0wall, and do NOT wish the discussion to devolve
> >>> into a "general solutions for service providers list"
> >
> > Well I say there is a big cance to end up with Intel CPU that  
> > doesn't not
> > support X86, in that case even if we can get the board for $20,  
> > some one
> > would have to put all mono files on another version of BSD, 
> so that  
> > would be
> > a developers part too. And, and if there will be no one willing to  
> > do that
> > the search for better pricing will do no good as community 
> wont get  
> > the
> > benefit if they can not install mono on it.
> Are you saying its a big 'chance' (risk) to use an Intel CPU that  
> doesn't execute x86 instructions, or that its a big "change"
> to do so?
> Did you know that support for the Intel ixp42x CPUs 
> (specifically the  
> gateworks boards) has been MFCed to FreeBSD 6.2?
> http://freshbsd.org/2007/02/26/23/13/10
> The biggest problem now is getting the requisite packages to go  
> through a cross-compiler (harder than it looks) or to build a native
> "build" environment.   Currently I'm getting one of these to run  
> FreeBSD 6.2:  http://www.intel.com/design/storage/sb.htm
> Though the Freecom box could be interesting as well.
> Running a native build environment 'fixes' the issue of getting the  
> various packages to run through a cross compiler, modulo byte- 
> ordering issues
> possible for some things.
> pfSense is being put on the Avilia boards.   I fully expect that  
> m0n0wall will follow.   Since most of the Avila boards have a CF  
> socket, and since the work has completed to allow the FreeBSD kernel  
> to boot from the on-board (non-CF) flash, installing pfSense (or  
> m0n0) will be no more difficult
> than loading a CF with a pre-compiled image and using tftp to load  
> the kernel in the on-board flash.
> Eliminating the CF socket (with a custom m0n0wall image) and 
> tftp-ing that into the on-board flash (assuming it can be 
> made to fit in 16MB) would allow the use of freebsd/m0n0 on 
> the single-socket Gateworks board.
> Jim