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 From:  "Chris Dickens" <chris at object dash zone dot net>
 To:  <m0n0wall dash dev at lists dot m0n0 dot ch>
 Subject:  RE: [m0n0wall-dev] Patch for Bellsouth/AT&T users
 Date:  Thu, 3 Jan 2008 23:22:43 -0500
I must raise my supporting hand along with Chris in blasting Bellsouth.
Their pompous attitudes, poor support, and ridiculous billing issues do
nothing to garner favor with me.  I made an oath many years ago to never
use their services again, and have managed to avoid them ever since --
personally.  Some of my customers have been unable to avoid them, and so
my feelings go out to them for having to deal with them on numerous
occasions. :-)

Same company as I remember and I don't see any reason why I shouldn't
continue to be Bellsouth-free for many more years.


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Buechler [mailto:cbuechler at gmail dot com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 10:44 PM
Cc: m0n0wall dash dev at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
Subject: Re: [m0n0wall-dev] Patch for Bellsouth/AT&T users

This change does indeed fix the issue for all the sites that were
having problems. This may be common enough now with an ISP as large as
AT&T requiring it that it should be exposed in the webGUI (unless mpd
itself can be fixed). Otherwise I think people won't look into it far
enough to find the resolution and just assume it doesn't work. I'll
add it to the FAQ, but I still think it should be considered for the

On Jan 3, 2008 5:17 AM, Adam Armstrong <lists at memetic dot org> wrote:
> I'm glad we didn't see the same bad behaviour on the m0n0wall list as
> the pfsense list with regards to this issue.
> It was sad to see lead pfsense developers spitting at AT&T/Bellsouth
> refusing to acknowledge there could be an issue elsewhere.
> Just my impression.

This was uncalled for and misleading, if not an outright lie. I said
in that thread I was going to look into this issue before anyone
brought it up here, there was absolutely no "refusal to acknowledge
there could be an issue". Those of us who deal with Bellsouth on a
routine basis have more than adequate justification to "spit at" them,
trust me!  :)  I won't bother to detail the conversation on this issue
I attempted with their technical support, suffice it to say I think
the most that person knew about PPPoE is it's comprised of 5 letters.


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