The MB's are 17cm by 17cm. The small case I use has place for a floppy, 
HD, slimline CD, 2 PCI cards and a small 12V to 12V/5V board. The power 
supply is a 12V 6A external supply. The case is 30cm by 28cm by 6cm. 
There is also a Tiny MB 12cm by 12cm. Via announced the producing of 
64bit low power processors.

Some ideas: http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/sc.8/category.19/it.A/id.330/.f 
And if you like to see some nice, silly, crazy, or fun homemade projects 
with these 17*17 mini-itx boards, look at http://www.mini-itx.com...

Jesse Guardiani wrote:

>Robert Rich wrote:
>
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>>I've been trying to find a sweet spot with the VIA stuff.  I think i
>>found it:
>>
>>http://www.viaembedded.com/product/epia_cl_spec.jsp?motherboardId=181
>>
>>It's the EPIA-CL6000E, which is just like the PD you found but lacks the
>>'digital i/o' port for POS applications.  You can pick them up at
>>axiontech.com for $136.95.  (iboxpc is selling the same thing for $190,
>>one of them goofed).  Add ram ($50), cf/ide adapter ($50/$10), power
>>supply ($45!) and case ($40!) and you're over $300.  But you have a lot
>>more to play with.
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>
>$300+ ain't bad. A Soekris 4801 with all the trimmings is about $350. That's
>still a heck of a lot cheaper than a Cisco PIX firewall. How large would one
>of these VIA machines be? They look about the same size, but they require
>a standard power supply? That would bulk up the case quite a bit, I think.
>
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