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 From:  "Boris Rudoy" <boris at rudoy dot com>
 To:  <m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch>
 Subject:  Re: [m0n0wall] RE: IDE CF card
 Date:  Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:31:13 -0500
Gm-m-m,  writing log to the disk.... Is it implemented in HDD version only?
I run CD + Floppy and didn't see any write activity with floppy (only if i
change configuration)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mitch (WebCob)" <mitch at webcob dot com>
To: "Christiaens Joachim" <jchristi at oce dot be>; "Martin Holst"
<mail at martinh dot dk>; <m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch>
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 1:34 PM
Subject: RE: [m0n0wall] RE: IDE CF card


> Was making the assumption that someone wanting to run from an HDD would
want
> some sort of write activity - just pointing out that CF has a limited
> lifetime for that. I've heard discussions before that doing things like
> enabling syslog to store locally, can dramatically reduce the lifetime and
> reliability of a CF boot device.
>
> Log entries can be flushed as created unless a patch is applied iirc, to
> batch them into group-sized chunks...
>
> Just a caution - not saying it's impossible - like I said - read your CF
> specs and do the math in your environment - see if you are happy.
>
> m/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christiaens Joachim [mailto:jchristi at oce dot be]
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 8:37 AM
> To: 'Mitch (WebCob)'; Martin Holst; m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
> Subject: RE: [m0n0wall] RE: IDE CF card
>
>
> Aren't we talking about m0n0wall here?
>
> The HDD image runs perfectly on my old testmachine (Compaq deskpro with
> CF-IDE adaptor).
>
> m0n0wall is as much read-only as possible!
>
> Joachim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mitch (WebCob) [mailto:mitch at webcob dot com]
> Sent: vrijdag 21 november 2003 17:33
> To: Martin Holst; m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
> Subject: RE: [m0n0wall] RE: IDE CF card
>
>
> Easier yes - better? Maybe not...
>
> In a power fail, you could corrupt your CF image, then you lose the
benefits
> of solidstate booting.
>
> Also, my understanding is that CF "disks" have a limited number of write
> operations before they start having problems. The problem is going to
cause
> trouble with typical configs where log files are updated constantly - I'd
do
> the math and see how long it will last?
>
> my 2 cents
>
> m/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Holst [mailto:mail at martinh dot dk]
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 12:34 AM
> To: m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
> Subject: [m0n0wall] RE: IDE CF card
>
>
> I'm using this one, which seems to be almost the same as the one you're
> suggesting:
> http://cfide.co.uk/compact_flash_ide_adapter_cfide_hdd.shtml
>
> Only difference is that this one detects as a hard drive in BIOS - and
> there's always write access.
> That way you can just use the generic PC (HDD) image without any
> modifications.
>
> Seems a bit easier ;o)
>
> /Martin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Boris Rudoy [mailto:boris at rudoy dot com]
> Sent: 21. november 2003 01:51
> To: m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
> Subject: [m0n0wall] IDE CF card
>
> I am found this device
> http://ide-cf.info-for.us/ And planing  to use it as a replacement for
> CD-ROM + Floppy
>
> Can somebody confirm is it possible ?
> What shoul I change for save configuration file on the same media , istead
> of use floppy
>
> Thank you,
> Boris
>
>
>
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