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 From:  "Alex Threlfall" <alex at cyberprog dot net>
 To:  "'Rob Sharp'" <robertsharp at gmail dot com>
 Cc:  <m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch>
 Subject:  RE: [m0n0wall] Re: Experiences in 50+ user organizations?
 Date:  Fri, 25 Feb 2005 02:00:56 -0000
What sort of hardware would be needed to chuck gigabit links at a m0n0wall?

I'm guessing something fairly high-end, but will m0n0wall be able to fully
utilise an high end system?

Kind Regards,

  Alex Threlfall
Cyberprog New Media
tel - 0870 446 0789
fax - 0870 446 1789 
 www.cyberprog.net 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barry Mather [mailto:barry dot mather at dorecentres dot com dot au] 
> Sent: 25 February 2005 1:58 AM
> To: Rob Sharp
> Cc: m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
> Subject: RE: [m0n0wall] Re: Experiences in 50+ user organizations?
> 
> I was just answering the post from the guy in the first 
> place, his boss was nervous of using open source software, so 
> I pointed out that various large companies use open source 
> software as a base for their products ...
> 
> Another thought is:- what product does 'the internet' use for 
> dns servers .. I'd pretty much guess that 80%+ use bind - 
> open source - now that's not being simplistic.
> 
> I would also not class m0n0wall as a 'home grown' firewall 
> any more ...
> the amount of talent on this forum is HUGE ... we have MANY 
> people contributing to this project what do this kind of work 
> full time as well...
> 
> How do you think that many people contributing to a project 
> because they want to see it succeed is any different from 
> many people contributing to a project because they are being 
> paid by a company ...
> 
> There was also no need to be so condescending in your post.
> 
> End.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Sharp [mailto:robertsharp at gmail dot com]
> Sent: Friday, 25 February 2005 12:44 PM
> To: Barry Mather
> Cc: m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
> Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] Re: Experiences in 50+ user organizations?
> 
> I would hardly compare Checkpoint NG to a home grown firewall 
> thats using IPFW. 
> Checkpoint runs on the Nokia IPSO (bsd varient) or linux or win2k. 
> But it loads it's firewalls drivers over the OS.  Checkpoint 
> NG is a far more powerful firewall.  Not trying to dis 
> monowall cause I think it's awesome, just your simplifying 
> checkpoint and probably sonicwall.
> 
> I run monowall on a IP110 (Cyrix 266, 64 ram, 5 gig 2.5 ide) 
> and I can push 40 mbps with a custom kernel and some tweaks 
> (link0 and kernel
> polling) and I can do about 3 mbps of blowfish openvpn.  I 
> don't use traffic shaping since it seems to break port 
> forwarding on 1.2b3.
> 
> 
> On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:11:54 +1100, Barry Mather 
> <barry dot mather at dorecentres dot com dot au> wrote:
> > To get back slightly to the topic in hand ...
> > 
> > Checkpoint firewall NG - runs on a version of unix ...
> > 
> > Sonicwall - runs a version of unix
> > 
> > Why be scared to use open source when so many other LARGE 
> vendors do 
> > .....
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Eric Collins [mailto:eric at tawifi dot com]
> > Sent: Friday, 25 February 2005 10:33 AM
> > To: m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
> > Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] Re: Experiences in 50+ user organizations?
> > 
> > Now while I agree with Jesse on a "saturated" T1 its is kinda touch
> and
> > go, especially if you have alot of shaping going on, but I have
> several
> > client T1's that I use the 4801's on and they are fine 99.9% of the 
> > time, no problems whatso ever. So no I dont think it would be a
> problem.
> > 
> > I also use the 4801 on my home connection which is 5mbit 
> Wifi and it 
> > purrs along just fine with no problems.
> > 
> > As for your wifi feed I think the soekris boards will be 
> just fine, we 
> > use them in several 5-10mbit wifi feeds without problems, and I am
> sure
> > alot of other people use them in the same way.
> > 
> > Now the Soekris did not work for our datacenter, but with the amount
> of
> > traffic we push it is not surprising in the least.
> > 
> > -Eric
> > 
> > Seth Rothenberg wrote:
> > 
> > >>I tend to agree with this....
> > >>I wouldn't place a Soekris 4801 on anything larger than a 
> saturated 
> > >>T1 though.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >I have 2 questions on this thread -
> > >which has been getting me nervious....but maybe unnecessarily...
> > >
> > >So, if you have a not-saturated T1, Soekris is OK?
> > >(I have two 4521 in service and would like to keep them a while :-)
> > >
> > >What about a wifi feed?  I am looking at buying 
> Towerstream's 5Mb/s 
> > >feed soon, for about 20 people, hoping to grow...hoping 
> the soekris 
> > >would last a while...
> > >
> > >....and, if not a soekris, even 4801 from sounds of it,
> > >what then?   i.e., a GHz class SBC with 2 pcmcia ?
> > >(do you give up the fanless part? :-) Any suggestions?
> > >
> > >
> > >Thanks
> > >Seth
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > 
> > --
> > Eric Collins
> > Sr Network Administrator
> > Tawifi.com
> > 
> > Downtown Tucson WiFi Network
> > http://www.tawifi.com
> > 
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