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One of the other projects I sysadmin for likes to hand this out in situations like this. :) http://bsdinstaller.org/trolls.html but I'll bite anyway. On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 20:50:13 +0100, Frederick Page <fpage at thebetteros dot oche dot de> wrote: > > Although declared stable, the recent bugs with Traffic Shaper, NAT, > PPTP, etc. show impressively in which direction FBSD is going. All go back to one thing - issues in ipfw. FreeBSD 4 had some different but similar issues that required kernel patches in the very early m0n0wall days. Using ipfw and ipfilter simultaneously is officially "unsupported" by FreeBSD, hence the need for custom kernel patches before and probably now. Moving to 5.3 is almost like starting m0n0wall from scratch really, given the kernel issues that had to be worked around originally. I don't know what the freezing issues might be, as I've never seen them, but they started before m0n0wall was moved to 5.3 so that eliminates your stability claim with 5.3. Though it is very annoying that it's happening, and since it happens on hardware that's stable with 1.11, it seems not to be hardware related. I won't bother responding to the other stuff, as that pretty much writes it all off as uninformed blather. -Chris |