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 From:  JSimoneau at lmtcs dot com
 To:  m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
 Subject:  RE: [m0n0wall] 1.2b6 lock-ups ....
 Date:  Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:43:21 -0500

I am interested in your findings, so keep us posted. I can't explain why
the version upgrade makes a difference, unless 1.2bx uses slightly more
resources that hits some magic threshold and causes things to fail. I've
experimented a lot with this one WRAP box, and really can't find out whats
going on. I only know that after probably a dozen experiments its always
locked up with the top on, and never with it off.

I remember reading something a while ago about someone having similar
experiences in an environment that had a lot of electrical noise, or
something like that. He contacted the vendor, whom said that these lockups
were a known problem with his revision of WRAP board. They replaced it
with a newer revision and his problems went away. So, it might be worth
your time to run some cable lengths and keep the m0n0 box elsewhere.

We go through lots of Soekris 45xx/48xx and WRAP boards, and I've only got
this one board with this behaviour. I think I'll try drilling some holes
in the case and putting it back on.

Josh Simoneau

-----Original Message-----
From: fpage at thebetteros dot oche dot de [mailto:fpage at thebetteros dot oche dot de] 
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 5:03 PM
To: m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] 1.2b6 lock-ups ....

Hallo JSimoneau,

JSimoneau at lmtcs dot com schrieb am 17. March 2005:

>When I leave the top off the case of the WRAP it has yet to lock up, 
>will go for weeks at a time.

That sure would explain a lot of issues here. But the Soekris has a much
bigger enclosure, there are even holes in it for air-circulation.
And it still does not explain why the problems started with 1.2bx (not
sure when, but never had the issues with 1.1).

However you make a good point, I now have the WRAP standing on two pencils
(air can get under it), let's see if/how this helps. Thank you for your
hints, if it keeps locking up, I'll have something more to experiment with

I will keep you posted!

>When I put the top of the case back on, the WRAP will lock up eventually.
>Sometimes in 2 days, sometimes a week, but it always happens.

That's EXACTLY what happens here. Maybe my vpn1411 card adds to the
problems, though I did not have it in the Soekris.

>So, probably not helpful, but try running with the top off :)

That's VERY helpful, it's something I can try after the next freeze (that
is if it's going to happen again).

Kind regards   Frederick

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