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 From:  Michael DeMan <michael at staff dot openaccess dot org>
 To:  "Neil A. Hillard" <m0n0 at dana dot org dot uk>
 Cc:  "Jewell, Mike" <mjewell at law dot umaryland dot edu>, m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
 Subject:  Re: [m0n0wall] Low-cost VLANing
 Date:  Wed, 30 Mar 2005 13:21:35 -0800
3COM superstacks work great for this.  We use them all the time.  No 
gigabit, but they are cheap and reliable from e-bay.

Michael F. DeMan
Director of Technology
OpenAccess Network Services LLC
P.O. Box 4220, Bellingham WA 98227
michael at staff dot openaccess dot org
360-647-0785 x204
On Mar 30, 2005, at 1:16 PM, Neil A. Hillard wrote:

> Mike,
>> You have to be careful about setting up trunks to machines, typically
>> trunks are designed for switch - switch connections.  I'm not even 
>> sure
>> if .1q vlan tagging is implemented in m0n0wall...
> http://m0n0.ch/wall/hardware.php list those devices that are capable of
> operating with VLAN tagging in m0n0wall.  My machine has an onboard fxp
> so I should be OK.
> HTH,
>                                 Neil.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Neil A. Hillard [mailto:m0n0 at dana dot org dot uk]
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 1:31 PM
>> To: Chris Bagnall
>> Cc: m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
>> Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] Low-cost VLANing
>> Chris,
>>> I know this isn't strictly on-topic for the list, but since there 
>>> are so
>>> many knowledgeable networking folks on the list, it seemed the 
>>> sensible
>>> place to ask.
>>> Has anyone found any cost-effective VLAN-capable switches? 
>>> Everything I've
>>> seen is hideously expensive (£300+), and even more expensive than 
>>> that if
>>> you want gigabit. I'm trying to find a cost effective method of 
>>> VLANing a
>>> single cat5e link between two buildings. Adding extra cables isn't 
>>> feasible
>>> - there's a pavement over the top.
>> I picked up a 3com SuperStack II 3300 switch (3C16980) for £50 + P&P a
>> little while ago.  Saw a pair go for £74 + P&P.  Search for '3c16980' 
>> or
>> '3com 3300'.
>> Perform a firmware upgrade on those and they'll handle it for you.
>> Admittedly they don't do PoE but at that price you can't complain.
>> I'm planning on removing the two dual NICs in my m0n0wall and 
>> switching
>> to a trunk to the switch to reduce the amount of cabling I have here.
>> Bandwidth won't be a problem down the single NIC.
>> HTH,
>>                                Neil.
> -- 
> Neil A. Hillard                E-Mail:   neil at dana dot org dot uk
>                                Web:      http://www.dana.org.uk/
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