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Adriel, D-Link and Netgear are no references, only products that have IDS or a little part of IDS function. IPCOp also has this Function, and Watchguard on the new product "Fireware Pro" also ad an proactive service AV/IPS. Micro Liss FL II320 from Telco-Tech also have an IDS. I don't say that an IDS is the one and only. But Sebastian Schreiber from SySS (Germany) have shown that an Firewall only could be leak. BR Oliver Kainz | ||||||||