Hi,

> But I have no way of knowing what ports they are using. And most likely its
> port 80, so I can't do anything. Traffic is obviously not evenly shared. I
> figure it can't be shared evenly if you don't tell the shaper which clients
> there are in the LAN. Sure enough the traffic shaper won't find this out
> automatically. 

this is easy to reolve (even if these pipes arent too flexible, they'll do the basic)
if ONE person is ruining it for the rest, on well used protocols, simply whack them
to low priority.  copy a couple of the 

  	 m_Hated Download
  	 m_Hated Upload

lines in the traffic shaper and edit those 2 new rules to use the address
of the offender (and change the port range to all ports).

alan