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 From:  Jim Thompson <jim at netgate dot com>
 To:  Chris Buechler <cbuechler at gmail dot com>
 Cc:  m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
 Subject:  Re: [m0n0wall] Problem with WRAP.1E-2 (3 LAN / 1 miniPCI) 128MB boards
 Date:  Sat, 23 Jul 2005 23:55:57 -0700
On Jul 23, 2005, at 9:35 PM, Chris Buechler wrote:

> On 7/23/05, Phil <xphilz at gmail dot com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I was running the 1.2b7 for ages as I have an atheros wireless  
>> card as
>> well and I didnt want to loose wireless support by upgrading, but the
>> issues I have been facing got so bad that the only way I could get  
>> the
>> m0n0wall\WRAP to be stable was to go to 1.2b9 which changes the  
>> kernal
>> back to 4.x as you mentioned and this has been a lot more stable.  
>> So I
>> am guessing that my problems are with the WRAP board now and its
>> interesting that you are running 15-18V where I am only running 12v.
>>
>>
>
> I haven't really been following this thread, but a lot of the
> stability issues on the 5.x based versions with WRAP boards seemed to
> be heat related.  It stressed the hardware much more because it was
> much less efficient, and hence generated much more heat.  I recall one
> person whose freezing issues stopped completely after removing their
> crypto card because there was some chip under the miniPCI slot that
> was getting way too hot with it in there (don't remember details,
> sorry).  Might be the same deal with a wireless card.
>
> Assuming you haven't taken it out already, I'd be curious what
> happened if you did (not like you can use it with b9 anyway).

On the other hand, we ship (sell) WRAP boards with high-power radios  
in an outdoor case consideration,
and have had no problems such as those described here.