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Ah! In that case the sparrow has landed: http://www.ipd-us.com/productsparrow.htm Have fun with the downlaod page! C -----Original Message----- From: Christopher M. Iarocci [mailto:iarocci at eastendsc dot com] Sent: 17 September 2005 21:43 To: Christopher M. Iarocci Cc: Christian H Borrman; m0n0wall mailing list Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] Excellent (and affordable) m0n0 platform OK, after some googling, and no success finding the right one, I removed the board from the case. The only thing that resembles a name of any sort is the word "Sparrow" and then underneath it says "Ver 2.0". Googled that, no luck. *Sigh* Chris Christopher M. Iarocci wrote: > The board is 8" by 5.75", which I believe is the 5.25" format. The > name is not on the front of the board, and I have not removed it > entirely from it's case to view the back. I'm going to do some google > searching. > > Chris > > > Christian H Borrman wrote: > >> Hi Christopher, >> >> Could be Nova (ipo-sa.com) or vox tech, however just a search on SIS >> 630 Celeron embedded board brought up quite a lot. That PCI slot will >> be a give-away, suggesting good news; it was not built from scratch >> for them, but instead an "off-the-shelf" board, as is having a dimm >> for memory rather than embedded. It also means there should be some >> documentation, bios etc out there. >> >> Finally, what is the size, 5.25" or 3.5" format? If you add that >> format or exact dimension Google should come through. Also, given >> that it is off the shelf, it should have a name or model somewhere on >> front or back of board. >> >> Best >> >> C >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Christopher M. Iarocci [mailto:iarocci at eastendsc dot com] Sent: 17 >> September 2005 15:22 >> To: Christian H Borrman >> Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] Excellent (and affordable) m0n0 platform >> >> Christian, >> >> Here is a copy of the picture. I stripped most everything extra off >> the board so you could see the board itself. >> >> Thanks a bunch. >> >> Chris >> >> >> Christian H Borrman wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi Christopher, >>> >>> If you email me the picture I can put it on some FTP somewhere and >>> also have a look for tell-tale OEM board manufacturer giveaways. >>> From there you can usually find a bios that may work, where it is, >>> how to update it, etc >>> >>> C >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Christopher M. Iarocci [mailto:iarocci at eastendsc dot com] >>> Sent: 17 September 2005 14:52 >>> To: Christian H Borrman >>> Cc: 'Vince Van De Coevering'; m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch >>> Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] Excellent (and affordable) m0n0 platform >>> >>> I opened it, and have a hi-res picture of it, but nowhere to put it. >>> It has a pheonix bios chip in it. It has no video output, although >>> it appears to have a place on one end of the board for a PCI riser >>> board to >>> >> >> connect to. >> >> >>> I'm beginning to think that is how Intrusion would change the board >>> by plugging in to that. I wish I could tell you what kind or model >>> of board it was, but there seems to be no distinguishing marks in >>> that aspect. I can't imagine Intrusion themselves made the board, >>> but it could be considering the little daughter boards connected to >>> it all have Intrusion marked right on the board. >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> >>> Christian H Borrman wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Christopher, Vince >>>> >>>> Can you open them up and see who makes the board, bios, etc. and/or >>>> post a link to a high-res picture that maybe someone can recognise >>>> the board/bios from? This will open up many clues and maybe there >>>> is a bios >>>> >>>> >>>> from a similar device. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Christian >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Christopher M. Iarocci [mailto:iarocci at eastendsc dot com] >>>> Sent: 17 September 2005 04:00 >>>> To: Vince Van De Coevering; m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch >>>> Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] Excellent (and affordable) m0n0 platform >>>> >>>> Vince, >>>> >>>> Any clue how to get into the bios of these things? I didn't have >>>> as much luck as you. I got a PDS2300 which originally had a hard >>>> drive. >>>> I do not want to keep the hard drive so I removed it, and put in my >>>> m0n0wall written CF card in the appropriate slot. However, it does >>>> not seem to be booting (or at least I don't think). I must have to >>>> tell the bios to use the CF card. Just not sure how to get in it, >>>> or view >>>> >>> >> it. >> >> >>>> Will the bios come over the serial port using a null modem cable >>>> and a terminal program like hyperterminal? >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> >>>> Vince Van De Coevering wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Chris, >>>>> >>>>> I used a USB card reader to write the CF card using the >>>>> instructions on the m0n0 site and plugged the CF card into the >>>>> built in CF socket. >>>>> >>>>> No changes to the NIC configs were necessary. >>>>> I know that an IDE to CF adapter works on the ide channel on the >>>>> PDS2100 motherboard (because I broke a pin on the built in CF >>>>> socket). >>>>> There is a >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> 5 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> volt socket on the motherboard to power the adapter. >>>>> >>>>> The first PDS2100 I used did not have the a drive installed >>>>> (Checkpoint was loaded from the CF card). I'm going to try a hard >>>>> drive install on the >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> unit >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> currently on my test bench. I'll pull the drive, attach it to my >>>>> desktop system and use the write utility. There isn't much point >>>>> in having the >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> hard >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> drive installed unless you boot from it, especially if the logs >>>>> are forwarded a dedicated logging server. >>>>> >>>>> Vince Van De Coevering >>>>> IT Manager >>>>> Figaro's Italian Pizza, Inc. >>>>> 503-371-9318 x216 >>>>> vpv at figaros dot com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Christopher M. Iarocci [mailto:iarocci at eastendsc dot com] >>>>>> Sent: September 15, 2005 4:56 PM >>>>>> To: Vince Van De Coevering >>>>>> Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] Excellent (and affordable) m0n0 platform >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Vince, >>>>>> >>>>>> I just realized that the PDS2300 must be using SIS chipset NIC >>>>>> cards, which is why you were able to just log right in. I'm >>>>>> assuming you did not have to change the NIC assignment at the >>>>>> console at all, which can only lead to the conclusion that the >>>>>> default SIS driver works on the NICs built into the device. My >>>>>> last question then is, did you use an IDE to CF adaptor to write >>>>>> your card, or did you use a USB card reader/writer? Also, did >>>>>> you remove the hard drive from the device? >>>>>> >>>>>> Chris >>>>>> >>>>>> Vince Van De Coevering wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Chris, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can configure m0n0 without the using the serial console. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I put the generic m0n0 image on a cf card, installed the >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> card, and booted >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> the unit. Using a crossover cable I connected a pc and set >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> it to an IP on >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> the default address block (192.168.1.x) and pointed my browser >>>>>>> at >>>>>>> 192.168.1.1 and was greeted by the m0n0 GUI. From there I >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> was able to >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> configure everything. >>>>>>> When I get some spare time (and a spare machine) I'm going >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> to look a bit >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> closer at FreeBSD. I generally use Gentoo Linux when I need >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> a unix-based >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> server. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Vince Van De Coevering >>>>>>> IT Manager >>>>>>> Figaro's Italian Pizza, Inc. >>>>>>> 503-371-9318 x216 >>>>>>> vpv at figaros dot com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: Christopher M. Iarocci [mailto:iarocci at eastendsc dot com] >>>>>>>> Sent: September 07, 2005 7:28 PM >>>>>>>> To: Vince Van De Coevering >>>>>>>> Cc: 'm0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch' >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] Excellent (and affordable) m0n0 >>>>>>>> platform >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Vince Van De Coevering wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The intrusion.com PDS 2100 series of appliances make an >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> excellent and >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> affordable m0n0 platform. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There are several on ebay and I just purchased 2 for $9.95 each. >>>>>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/Intrusion-PDS2300-Firewall-Router-Warrant >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> y_W0QQitemZ5800 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 792840QQcategoryZ51168QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The one gotcha with these devices is that they don't have >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> video cards (they >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> use a serial port instead) so you have to connect a PC to >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> the LAN interface >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> and use a web browser to configure them. Or you can >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> customize the kernel >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> use the serial console. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Most come with 3 10/100 ports, 2 USB ports, Celeron 600 CPU >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> and 64 or 128 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> megs of ram (can replace the DIMM to increase size). >>>>>>>> They have a CF slot for booting and some include 10 meg SFF >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> (laptop sized) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> hard drives. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Vince Van De Coevering >>>>>>>> IT Manager >>>>>>>> Figaro's Italian Pizza, Inc. >>>>>>>> 503-371-9318 x216 >>>>>>>> vpv at figaros dot com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Vince, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Have you, or do you know anyone who has modified the kernel >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> to be able >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> to use the serial console with this unit? I'm confused at >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> how you would >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> use the LAN interface to configure the router since the >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> generic version >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> requires you to first assign that NIC. Did you modify the >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> XML file to >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> designate the LAN NIC ahead of the original boot maybe? >>>>>>> FYI, I have one of these coming to me. Wanted to try it >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> out, although >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> none were to be found as cheap as you bought them. I paid >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> $31 on Ebay. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: m0n0wall dash unsubscribe at lists dot m0n0 dot ch >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: m0n0wall dash help at lists dot m0n0 dot ch >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: m0n0wall dash unsubscribe at lists dot m0n0 dot ch >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: m0n0wall dash help at lists dot m0n0 dot ch >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: m0n0wall dash unsubscribe at lists dot m0n0 dot ch > For additional commands, e-mail: m0n0wall dash help at lists dot m0n0 dot ch > |