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That is a great find! Thanks for sharing it! Vince Van De Coevering IT Manager Figaro's Italian Pizza, Inc. 503-371-9318 x216 vpv at figaros dot com > -----Original Message----- > From: Christian H Borrman [mailto:chb at orange dot net] > Sent: September 18, 2005 7:07 AM > To: 'Christopher M. Iarocci' > Cc: 'm0n0wall mailing list' > Subject: RE: [m0n0wall] Excellent (and affordable) m0n0 platform > > > Ah! In that case the sparrow has landed: > > http://www.ipd-us.com/productsparrow.htm > > Have fun with the downlaod page! > > C > > -----Original Message----- > From: Christopher M. Iarocci [mailto:iarocci at eastendsc dot com] > Sent: 17 September 2005 21:43 > To: Christopher M. Iarocci > Cc: Christian H Borrman; m0n0wall mailing list > Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] Excellent (and affordable) m0n0 platform > > OK, after some googling, and no success finding the right > one, I removed the > board from the case. The only thing that resembles a name of > any sort is > the word "Sparrow" and then underneath it says "Ver 2.0". > Googled that, no luck. *Sigh* > > Chris > > > Christopher M. Iarocci wrote: > > > The board is 8" by 5.75", which I believe is the 5.25" format. The > > name is not on the front of the board, and I have not removed it > > entirely from it's case to view the back. I'm going to do > some google > > searching. > > > > Chris > > > > > > Christian H Borrman wrote: > > > >> Hi Christopher, > >> > >> Could be Nova (ipo-sa.com) or vox tech, however just a > search on SIS > >> 630 Celeron embedded board brought up quite a lot. That > PCI slot will > >> be a give-away, suggesting good news; it was not built > from scratch > >> for them, but instead an "off-the-shelf" board, as is > having a dimm > >> for memory rather than embedded. It also means there > should be some > >> documentation, bios etc out there. > >> > >> Finally, what is the size, 5.25" or 3.5" format? If you add that > >> format or exact dimension Google should come through. Also, given > >> that it is off the shelf, it should have a name or model > somewhere on > >> front or back of board. > >> > >> Best > >> > >> C > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Christopher M. Iarocci > [mailto:iarocci at eastendsc dot com] Sent: 17 > >> September 2005 15:22 > >> To: Christian H Borrman > >> Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] Excellent (and affordable) m0n0 platform > >> > >> Christian, > >> > >> Here is a copy of the picture. I stripped most everything > extra off > >> the board so you could see the board itself. > >> > >> Thanks a bunch. > >> > >> Chris > >> > >> > >> Christian H Borrman wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>> Hi Christopher, > >>> > >>> If you email me the picture I can put it on some FTP > somewhere and > >>> also have a look for tell-tale OEM board manufacturer giveaways. > >>> From there you can usually find a bios that may work, > where it is, > >>> how to update it, etc > >>> > >>> C > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Christopher M. Iarocci [mailto:iarocci at eastendsc dot com] > >>> Sent: 17 September 2005 14:52 > >>> To: Christian H Borrman > >>> Cc: 'Vince Van De Coevering'; m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch > >>> Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] Excellent (and affordable) m0n0 platform > >>> > >>> I opened it, and have a hi-res picture of it, but nowhere > to put it. > >>> It has a pheonix bios chip in it. It has no video > output, although > >>> it appears to have a place on one end of the board for a > PCI riser > >>> board to > >>> > >> > >> connect to. > >> > >> > >>> I'm beginning to think that is how Intrusion would change > the board > >>> by plugging in to that. I wish I could tell you what > kind or model > >>> of board it was, but there seems to be no distinguishing marks in > >>> that aspect. I can't imagine Intrusion themselves made > the board, > >>> but it could be considering the little daughter boards > connected to > >>> it all have Intrusion marked right on the board. > >>> > >>> Chris > >>> > >>> > >>> Christian H Borrman wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> Christopher, Vince > >>>> > >>>> Can you open them up and see who makes the board, bios, > etc. and/or > >>>> post a link to a high-res picture that maybe someone can > recognise > >>>> the board/bios from? This will open up many clues and > maybe there > >>>> is a bios > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> from a similar device. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> Christian > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: Christopher M. Iarocci [mailto:iarocci at eastendsc dot com] > >>>> Sent: 17 September 2005 04:00 > >>>> To: Vince Van De Coevering; m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch > >>>> Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] Excellent (and affordable) m0n0 platform > >>>> > >>>> Vince, > >>>> > >>>> Any clue how to get into the bios of these things? I > didn't have > >>>> as much luck as you. I got a PDS2300 which originally > had a hard > >>>> drive. > >>>> I do not want to keep the hard drive so I removed it, > and put in my > >>>> m0n0wall written CF card in the appropriate slot. > However, it does > >>>> not seem to be booting (or at least I don't think). I > must have to > >>>> tell the bios to use the CF card. Just not sure how to > get in it, > >>>> or view > >>>> > >>> > >> it. > >> > >> > >>>> Will the bios come over the serial port using a null modem cable > >>>> and a terminal program like hyperterminal? > >>>> > >>>> Chris > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Vince Van De Coevering wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Chris, > >>>>> > >>>>> I used a USB card reader to write the CF card using the > >>>>> instructions on the m0n0 site and plugged the CF card into the > >>>>> built in CF socket. > >>>>> > >>>>> No changes to the NIC configs were necessary. > >>>>> I know that an IDE to CF adapter works on the ide > channel on the > >>>>> PDS2100 motherboard (because I broke a pin on the built in CF > >>>>> socket). > >>>>> There is a > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> 5 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> volt socket on the motherboard to power the adapter. > >>>>> > >>>>> The first PDS2100 I used did not have the a drive installed > >>>>> (Checkpoint was loaded from the CF card). I'm going to > try a hard > >>>>> drive install on the > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> unit > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> currently on my test bench. I'll pull the drive, > attach it to my > >>>>> desktop system and use the write utility. There isn't > much point > >>>>> in having the > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> hard > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> drive installed unless you boot from it, especially if the logs > >>>>> are forwarded a dedicated logging server. > >>>>> > >>>>> Vince Van De Coevering > >>>>> IT Manager > >>>>> Figaro's Italian Pizza, Inc. > >>>>> 503-371-9318 x216 > >>>>> vpv at figaros dot com > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>> From: Christopher M. Iarocci [mailto:iarocci at eastendsc dot com] > >>>>>> Sent: September 15, 2005 4:56 PM > >>>>>> To: Vince Van De Coevering > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] Excellent (and affordable) > m0n0 platform > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Vince, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I just realized that the PDS2300 must be using SIS chipset NIC > >>>>>> cards, which is why you were able to just log right in. I'm > >>>>>> assuming you did not have to change the NIC assignment at the > >>>>>> console at all, which can only lead to the conclusion that the > >>>>>> default SIS driver works on the NICs built into the > device. My > >>>>>> last question then is, did you use an IDE to CF > adaptor to write > >>>>>> your card, or did you use a USB card reader/writer? Also, did > >>>>>> you remove the hard drive from the device? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Chris > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Vince Van De Coevering wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Chris, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> You can configure m0n0 without the using the serial console. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I put the generic m0n0 image on a cf card, installed the > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> card, and booted > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> the unit. Using a crossover cable I connected a pc and set > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> it to an IP on > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> the default address block (192.168.1.x) and pointed > my browser > >>>>>>> at > >>>>>>> 192.168.1.1 and was greeted by the m0n0 GUI. From there I > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> was able to > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> configure everything. > >>>>>>> When I get some spare time (and a spare machine) I'm going > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> to look a bit > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> closer at FreeBSD. I generally use Gentoo Linux when I need > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> a unix-based > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> server. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Vince Van De Coevering > >>>>>>> IT Manager > >>>>>>> Figaro's Italian Pizza, Inc. > >>>>>>> 503-371-9318 x216 > >>>>>>> vpv at figaros dot com > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>> From: Christopher M. Iarocci [mailto:iarocci at eastendsc dot com] > >>>>>>>> Sent: September 07, 2005 7:28 PM > >>>>>>>> To: Vince Van De Coevering > >>>>>>>> Cc: 'm0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch' > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] Excellent (and affordable) m0n0 > >>>>>>>> platform > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Vince Van De Coevering wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> The intrusion.com PDS 2100 series of appliances make an > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> excellent and > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> affordable m0n0 platform. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> There are several on ebay and I just purchased 2 > for $9.95 each. > >>>>>>>>> > http://cgi.ebay.com/Intrusion-PDS2300-Firewall-Router-Warrant > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> y_W0QQitemZ5800 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 792840QQcategoryZ51168QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The one gotcha with these devices is that they don't have > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> video cards (they > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> use a serial port instead) so you have to connect a PC to > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> the LAN interface > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> and use a web browser to configure them. Or you can > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> customize the kernel > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> to > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> use the serial console. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Most come with 3 10/100 ports, 2 USB ports, Celeron 600 CPU > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> and 64 or 128 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> megs of ram (can replace the DIMM to increase size). > >>>>>>>> They have a CF slot for booting and some include 10 meg SFF > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> (laptop sized) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> hard drives. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Vince Van De Coevering > >>>>>>>> IT Manager > >>>>>>>> Figaro's Italian Pizza, Inc. > >>>>>>>> 503-371-9318 x216 > >>>>>>>> vpv at figaros dot com > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Vince, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Have you, or do you know anyone who has modified the kernel > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> to be able > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> to use the serial console with this unit? I'm confused at > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> how you would > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> use the LAN interface to configure the router since the > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> generic version > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> requires you to first assign that NIC. Did you modify the > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> XML file to > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> designate the LAN NIC ahead of the original boot maybe? > >>>>>>> FYI, I have one of these coming to me. Wanted to try it > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> out, although > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> none were to be found as cheap as you bought them. I paid > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> $31 on Ebay. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Chris > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: m0n0wall dash unsubscribe at lists dot m0n0 dot ch > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: m0n0wall dash help at lists dot m0n0 dot ch > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: m0n0wall dash unsubscribe at lists dot m0n0 dot ch > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: m0n0wall dash help at lists dot m0n0 dot ch > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: m0n0wall dash unsubscribe at lists dot m0n0 dot ch > > For additional commands, e-mail: m0n0wall dash help at lists dot m0n0 dot ch > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: m0n0wall dash unsubscribe at lists dot m0n0 dot ch > For additional commands, e-mail: m0n0wall dash help at lists dot m0n0 dot ch > |