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 From:  "Christopher M. Iarocci" <iarocci at eastendsc dot com>
 To:  Christian H Borrman <chb at orange dot net>
 Cc:  'm0n0wall mailing list' <m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch>
 Subject:  Re: [m0n0wall] Excellent (and affordable) m0n0 platform
 Date:  Mon, 19 Sep 2005 19:44:58 -0400
YOU ROCK!!!!!!!!!!


Christian H Borrman wrote:

>Ah! In that case the sparrow has landed:
>
>http://www.ipd-us.com/productsparrow.htm
>
>Have fun with the downlaod page!
>
>C 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Christopher M. Iarocci [mailto:iarocci at eastendsc dot com] 
>Sent: 17 September 2005 21:43
>To: Christopher M. Iarocci
>Cc: Christian H Borrman; m0n0wall mailing list
>Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] Excellent (and affordable) m0n0 platform
>
>OK, after some googling, and no success finding the right one, I removed the
>board from the case.  The only thing that resembles a name of any sort is
>the word "Sparrow" and then underneath it says "Ver 2.0".  
>Googled that, no luck.  *Sigh*
>
>Chris
>
>
>Christopher M. Iarocci wrote:
>
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>
>>The board is 8" by 5.75", which I believe is the 5.25" format.  The 
>>name is not on the front of the board, and I have not removed it 
>>entirely from it's case to view the back.  I'm going to do some google 
>>searching.
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>
>>Christian H Borrman wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Hi Christopher,
>>>
>>>Could be Nova (ipo-sa.com) or vox tech, however just a search on SIS 
>>>630 Celeron embedded board brought up quite a lot. That PCI slot will 
>>>be a give-away, suggesting good news; it was not built from scratch 
>>>for them, but instead an "off-the-shelf" board, as is having a dimm 
>>>for memory rather than embedded. It also means there should be some 
>>>documentation, bios etc out there.
>>>
>>>Finally, what is the size, 5.25" or 3.5" format? If you add that 
>>>format or exact dimension Google should come through. Also, given 
>>>that it is off the shelf, it should have a name or model somewhere on 
>>>front or back of board.
>>>
>>>Best
>>>
>>>C
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Christopher M. Iarocci [mailto:iarocci at eastendsc dot com] Sent: 17 
>>>September 2005 15:22
>>>To: Christian H Borrman
>>>Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] Excellent (and affordable) m0n0 platform
>>>
>>>Christian,
>>>
>>>Here is a copy of the picture.  I stripped most everything extra off 
>>>the board so you could see the board itself.
>>>
>>>Thanks a bunch.
>>>
>>>Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>Christian H Borrman wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Hi Christopher,
>>>>
>>>>If you email me the picture I can put it on some FTP somewhere and 
>>>>also have a look for tell-tale OEM board manufacturer giveaways.
>>>>From there you can usually find a bios that may work, where it is, 
>>>>how to update it, etc
>>>>
>>>>C
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Christopher M. Iarocci [mailto:iarocci at eastendsc dot com]
>>>>Sent: 17 September 2005 14:52
>>>>To: Christian H Borrman
>>>>Cc: 'Vince Van De Coevering'; m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
>>>>Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] Excellent (and affordable) m0n0 platform
>>>>
>>>>I opened it, and have a hi-res picture of it, but nowhere to put it.  
>>>>It has a pheonix bios chip in it.  It has no video output, although 
>>>>it appears to have a place on one end of the board for a PCI riser 
>>>>board to
>>>>  
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>connect to.
>>> 
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>I'm beginning to think that is how Intrusion would change the board 
>>>>by plugging in to that.  I wish I could tell you what kind or model 
>>>>of board it was, but there seems to be no distinguishing marks in 
>>>>that aspect.  I can't imagine Intrusion themselves made the board, 
>>>>but it could be considering the little daughter boards connected to 
>>>>it all have Intrusion marked right on the board.
>>>>
>>>>Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Christian H Borrman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>Christopher, Vince
>>>>>
>>>>>Can you open them up and see who makes the board, bios, etc. and/or 
>>>>>post a link to a high-res picture that maybe someone can recognise 
>>>>>the board/bios from? This will open up many clues and maybe there 
>>>>>is a bios
>>>>> 
>>>>>    
>>>>>from a similar device.
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>Christian
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Christopher M. Iarocci [mailto:iarocci at eastendsc dot com]
>>>>>Sent: 17 September 2005 04:00
>>>>>To: Vince Van De Coevering; m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
>>>>>Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] Excellent (and affordable) m0n0 platform
>>>>>
>>>>>Vince,
>>>>>
>>>>>Any clue how to get into the bios of these things?  I didn't have 
>>>>>as much luck as you.  I got a PDS2300 which originally had a hard 
>>>>>drive.
>>>>>I do not want to keep the hard drive so I removed it, and put in my 
>>>>>m0n0wall written CF card in the appropriate slot.  However, it does 
>>>>>not seem to be booting (or at least I don't think).  I must have to 
>>>>>tell the bios to use the CF card.  Just not sure how to get in it, 
>>>>>or view
>>>>>    
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>it.
>>> 
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>Will the bios come over the serial port using a null modem cable 
>>>>>and a terminal program like hyperterminal?
>>>>>
>>>>>Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Vince Van De Coevering wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>>    
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>Chris,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I used a USB card reader to write the CF card using the 
>>>>>>instructions on the m0n0 site and plugged the CF card into the 
>>>>>>built in CF socket.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No changes to the NIC configs were necessary. 
>>>>>>I know that an IDE to CF adapter works on the ide channel on the 
>>>>>>PDS2100 motherboard (because I broke a pin on the built in CF 
>>>>>>socket).
>>>>>>There is a
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>5
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>>    
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>volt socket on the motherboard to power the adapter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The first PDS2100 I used did not have the a drive installed 
>>>>>>(Checkpoint was loaded from the CF card).  I'm going to try a hard 
>>>>>>drive install on the
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>unit
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>>    
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>currently on my test bench.  I'll pull the drive, attach it to my 
>>>>>>desktop system and use the write utility.  There isn't much point 
>>>>>>in having the
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>hard
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>>    
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>drive installed unless you boot from it, especially if the logs 
>>>>>>are forwarded a dedicated logging server.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Vince Van De Coevering
>>>>>>IT Manager
>>>>>>Figaro's Italian Pizza, Inc.
>>>>>>503-371-9318 x216
>>>>>>vpv at figaros dot com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>From: Christopher M. Iarocci [mailto:iarocci at eastendsc dot com]
>>>>>>>Sent: September 15, 2005 4:56 PM
>>>>>>>To: Vince Van De Coevering
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] Excellent (and affordable) m0n0 platform
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Vince,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I just realized that the PDS2300 must be using SIS chipset NIC 
>>>>>>>cards, which is why you were able to just log right in.  I'm 
>>>>>>>assuming you did not have to change the NIC assignment at the 
>>>>>>>console at all, which can only lead to the conclusion that the 
>>>>>>>default SIS driver works on the NICs built into the device.  My 
>>>>>>>last question then is, did you use an IDE to CF adaptor to write 
>>>>>>>your card, or did you use a USB card reader/writer?  Also, did 
>>>>>>>you remove the hard drive from the device?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Vince Van De Coevering wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Chris,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You can configure m0n0 without the using the serial console.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I put the generic m0n0 image on a cf card, installed the
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>card, and booted
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the unit.  Using a crossover cable I connected a pc and set
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>it to an IP on
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the default address block (192.168.1.x) and pointed my browser 
>>>>>>>>at
>>>>>>>>192.168.1.1 and was greeted by the m0n0 GUI.  From there I
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>was able to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>configure everything.
>>>>>>>>When I get some spare time (and a spare machine) I'm going
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>to look a bit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>closer at FreeBSD.  I generally use Gentoo Linux when I need
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>a unix-based
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>server.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Vince Van De Coevering
>>>>>>>>IT Manager
>>>>>>>>Figaro's Italian Pizza, Inc.
>>>>>>>>503-371-9318 x216
>>>>>>>>vpv at figaros dot com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>From: Christopher M. Iarocci [mailto:iarocci at eastendsc dot com]
>>>>>>>>>Sent: September 07, 2005 7:28 PM
>>>>>>>>>To: Vince Van De Coevering
>>>>>>>>>Cc: 'm0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch'
>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] Excellent (and affordable) m0n0 
>>>>>>>>>platform
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Vince Van De Coevering wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>The intrusion.com PDS 2100 series of appliances make an
>>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>excellent and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>affordable m0n0 platform.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>There are several on ebay and I just purchased 2 for $9.95 each.
>>>>>>>>>>http://cgi.ebay.com/Intrusion-PDS2300-Firewall-Router-Warrant
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The one gotcha with these devices is that they don't have
>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>video cards (they
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>use a serial port instead) so you have to connect a PC to
>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the LAN interface
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>and use a web browser to configure them.  Or you can
>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>customize the kernel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>use the serial console.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Most come with 3 10/100 ports, 2 USB ports, Celeron 600 CPU
>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>and 64 or 128
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>megs of ram (can replace the DIMM to increase size).
>>>>>>>>>They have a CF slot for booting and some include 10 meg SFF
>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>(laptop sized)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>hard drives.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Vince Van De Coevering
>>>>>>>>>IT Manager
>>>>>>>>>Figaro's Italian Pizza, Inc.
>>>>>>>>>503-371-9318 x216
>>>>>>>>>vpv at figaros dot com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Vince,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Have you, or do you know anyone who has modified the kernel
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>to be able
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>to use the serial console with this unit?  I'm confused at
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>how you would
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>use the LAN interface to configure the router since the
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>generic version
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>requires you to first assign that NIC.  Did you modify the
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>XML file to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>designate the LAN NIC ahead of the original boot maybe?
>>>>>>>>FYI, I have one of these coming to me.  Wanted to try it
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>out, although
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>none were to be found as cheap as you bought them.  I paid
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>$31 on Ebay.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Chris
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
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