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 From:  Bryan Kohlstedt <kohlstedt at gmail dot com>
 To:  "Christopher M. Iarocci" <iarocci at eastendsc dot com>
 Cc:  Vince Van De Coevering <vpv at figaros dot com>, "m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch" <m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch>
 Subject:  Re: [m0n0wall] Excellent (and affordable) m0n0 platform
 Date:  Mon, 19 Sep 2005 21:39:40 -0500
I'm curious what the pricing is on it anyway. Let me know what you find out. 


On 9/19/05, Christopher M. Iarocci <iarocci at eastendsc dot com> wrote:
> 
> Vince,
> 
> Could you be specific in your steps?
> 
> When you insert a working CF card, did you remove the hard drive? Was
> the CF card already written with a m0n0wall image? Which saved image
> are you referring to that you upload with your browser?
> 
> I'm not interested in the original system at all, I just want it to run
> m0n0wall. Mine just seems to not even boot from the CF card. Of course
> Intrusions omission of a video port makes it all but impossible to
> accurately tell what is going on. I have half a mind to just order the
> panel from Industrial Design that includes the video, keyboard, mouse 
> ports.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> Vince Van De Coevering wrote:
> 
> >Sorry this response is so late... The wife "ordered" a computer free
> >weekend....
> >
> >Its been my experience that nothing shows up on the serial port. In its
> >original CheckPoint config the serial port shows the kernel loading and 
> an
> >option to login. For every unit I've tried its simply been a matter of
> >installing a working CF card, connecting via the web gui at the default
> >address, and uploading the saved image from my web browser.
> >
> >The original system appears to be maintained/flashed through a series of
> >update programs obtainable from Intrusion.
> >
> >
> >Vince Van De Coevering
> >IT Manager
> >Figaro's Italian Pizza, Inc.
> >503-371-9318 x216
> >vpv at figaros dot com
> >
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Christopher M. Iarocci [mailto:iarocci at eastendsc dot com]
> >>Sent: September 17, 2005 6:53 AM
> >>To: Christopher M. Iarocci
> >>Cc: Vince Van De Coevering; m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
> >>Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] Excellent (and affordable) m0n0 platform
> >>
> >>
> >>In answer to my own question, no, a null modem cable and
> >>hyperterminal
> >>will not show you the bios when it's booting up.
> >>
> >>Christopher M. Iarocci wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Vince,
> >>>
> >>>Any clue how to get into the bios of these things? I
> >>>
> >>>
> >>didn't have as
> >>
> >>
> >>>much luck as you. I got a PDS2300 which originally had a
> >>>
> >>>
> >>hard drive.
> >>
> >>
> >>>I do not want to keep the hard drive so I removed it, and put in my
> >>>m0n0wall written CF card in the appropriate slot. However, it does
> >>>not seem to be booting (or at least I don't think). I must have to
> >>>tell the bios to use the CF card. Just not sure how to get
> >>>
> >>>
> >>in it, or
> >>
> >>
> >>>view it. Will the bios come over the serial port using a
> >>>
> >>>
> >>null modem
> >>
> >>
> >>>cable and a terminal program like hyperterminal?
> >>>
> >>>Chris
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Vince Van De Coevering wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Chris,
> >>>>
> >>>>I used a USB card reader to write the CF card using the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>instructions
> >>
> >>
> >>>>on the
> >>>>m0n0 site and plugged the CF card into the built in CF socket.
> >>>>
> >>>>No changes to the NIC configs were necessary.
> >>>>I know that an IDE to CF adapter works on the ide channel
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>on the PDS2100
> >>
> >>
> >>>>motherboard (because I broke a pin on the built in CF
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>socket). There
> >>
> >>
> >>>>is a 5
> >>>>volt socket on the motherboard to power the adapter.
> >>>>
> >>>>The first PDS2100 I used did not have the a drive installed
> >>>>(Checkpoint was
> >>>>loaded from the CF card). I'm going to try a hard drive
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>install on
> >>
> >>
> >>>>the unit
> >>>>currently on my test bench. I'll pull the drive, attach it to my
> >>>>desktop
> >>>>system and use the write utility. There isn't much point
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>in having
> >>
> >>
> >>>>the hard
> >>>>drive installed unless you boot from it, especially if the logs are
> >>>>forwarded a dedicated logging server.
> >>>>Vince Van De Coevering
> >>>>IT Manager
> >>>>Figaro's Italian Pizza, Inc.
> >>>>503-371-9318 x216
> >>>>vpv at figaros dot com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>From: Christopher M. Iarocci [mailto:iarocci at eastendsc dot com] Sent:
> >>>>>September 15, 2005 4:56 PM
> >>>>>To: Vince Van De Coevering
> >>>>>Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] Excellent (and affordable) m0n0 platform
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Vince,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I just realized that the PDS2300 must be using SIS chipset NIC
> >>>>>cards, which is why you were able to just log right in. I'm
> >>>>>assuming you did not have to change the NIC assignment at the
> >>>>>console at all, which can only lead to the conclusion that the
> >>>>>default SIS driver works on the NICs built into the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>device. My last
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>question then is, did you use an IDE to CF adaptor to write your
> >>>>>card, or did you use a USB card reader/writer? Also, did
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>you remove
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>the hard drive from the device?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Chris
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Vince Van De Coevering wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Chris,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>You can configure m0n0 without the using the serial console.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I put the generic m0n0 image on a cf card, installed the
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>card, and booted
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>the unit. Using a crossover cable I connected a pc and set
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>it to an IP on
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>the default address block (192.168.1.x) and pointed my browser at
> >>>>>>192.168.1.1 <http://192.168.1.1> and was greeted by the m0n0 GUI. 
> From there I
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>was able to
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>configure everything.
> >>>>>>When I get some spare time (and a spare machine) I'm going
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>to look a bit
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>closer at FreeBSD. I generally use Gentoo Linux when I need
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>a unix-based
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>server.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Vince Van De Coevering
> >>>>>>IT Manager
> >>>>>>Figaro's Italian Pizza, Inc.
> >>>>>>503-371-9318 x216
> >>>>>>vpv at figaros dot com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>From: Christopher M. Iarocci
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>[mailto:iarocci at eastendsc dot com] Sent:
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>September 07, 2005 7:28 PM
> >>>>>>>To: Vince Van De Coevering
> >>>>>>>Cc: 'm0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch'
> >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] Excellent (and affordable) m0n0 platform
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Vince Van De Coevering wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>The intrusion.com <http://intrusion.com> PDS 2100 series of 
> appliances make
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>an
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>excellent and
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>affordable m0n0 platform.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>There are several on ebay and I just purchased 2 for
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>$9.95 each.
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>http://cgi.ebay.com/Intrusion-PDS2300-Firewall-Router-Warrant
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>y_W0QQitemZ5800
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>792840QQcategoryZ51168QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>The one gotcha with these devices is that they don't have
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>video cards (they
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>use a serial port instead) so you have to connect a PC to
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>the LAN interface
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>and use a web browser to configure them. Or you can
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>customize the kernel
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>to
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>use the serial console.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Most come with 3 10/100 ports, 2 USB ports, Celeron 600
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>CPU
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>and 64 or 128
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>megs of ram (can replace the DIMM to increase size).
> >>>>>>>They have a CF slot for booting and some include 10 meg
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>SFF
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>(laptop sized)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>hard drives.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Vince Van De Coevering
> >>>>>>>IT Manager
> >>>>>>>Figaro's Italian Pizza, Inc.
> >>>>>>>503-371-9318 x216
> >>>>>>>vpv at figaros dot com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>Vince,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Have you, or do you know anyone who has modified the kernel
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>to be able
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>to use the serial console with this unit? I'm confused at
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>how you would
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>use the LAN interface to configure the router since the
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>generic version
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>requires you to first assign that NIC. Did you modify the
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>XML file to
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>designate the LAN NIC ahead of the original boot maybe?
> >>>>>>FYI, I have one of these coming to me. Wanted to try it
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>out, although
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>none were to be found as cheap as you bought them. I paid
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>$31 on Ebay.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Chris
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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