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 From:  "Christopher M. Iarocci" <iarocci at eastendsc dot com>
 To:  kohlstedt at gmail dot com
 Cc:  Vince Van De Coevering <vpv at figaros dot com>, "m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch" <m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch>
 Subject:  Re: [m0n0wall] Excellent (and affordable) m0n0 platform
 Date:  Tue, 20 Sep 2005 07:36:48 -0400
The panel is about $58.  With the unit, the panel, and the CF card, I'd 
be into this thing for $108.  Not bad at all for what I have.  I rather 
not spend the $58 and only be into it for $50 though.  :-)

Chris


Bryan Kohlstedt wrote:

>I'm curious what the pricing is on it anyway. Let me know what you find out. 
>
>
>On 9/19/05, Christopher M. Iarocci <iarocci at eastendsc dot com> wrote:
>  
>
>>Vince,
>>
>>Could you be specific in your steps?
>>
>>When you insert a working CF card, did you remove the hard drive? Was
>>the CF card already written with a m0n0wall image? Which saved image
>>are you referring to that you upload with your browser?
>>
>>I'm not interested in the original system at all, I just want it to run
>>m0n0wall. Mine just seems to not even boot from the CF card. Of course
>>Intrusions omission of a video port makes it all but impossible to
>>accurately tell what is going on. I have half a mind to just order the
>>panel from Industrial Design that includes the video, keyboard, mouse 
>>ports.
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>
>>Vince Van De Coevering wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Sorry this response is so late... The wife "ordered" a computer free
>>>weekend....
>>>
>>>Its been my experience that nothing shows up on the serial port. In its
>>>original CheckPoint config the serial port shows the kernel loading and 
>>>      
>>>
>>an
>>    
>>
>>>option to login. For every unit I've tried its simply been a matter of
>>>installing a working CF card, connecting via the web gui at the default
>>>address, and uploading the saved image from my web browser.
>>>
>>>The original system appears to be maintained/flashed through a series of
>>>update programs obtainable from Intrusion.
>>>
>>>
>>>Vince Van De Coevering
>>>IT Manager
>>>Figaro's Italian Pizza, Inc.
>>>503-371-9318 x216
>>>vpv at figaros dot com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Christopher M. Iarocci [mailto:iarocci at eastendsc dot com]
>>>>Sent: September 17, 2005 6:53 AM
>>>>To: Christopher M. Iarocci
>>>>Cc: Vince Van De Coevering; m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
>>>>Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] Excellent (and affordable) m0n0 platform
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>In answer to my own question, no, a null modem cable and
>>>>hyperterminal
>>>>will not show you the bios when it's booting up.
>>>>
>>>>Christopher M. Iarocci wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>Vince,
>>>>>
>>>>>Any clue how to get into the bios of these things? I
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>didn't have as
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>much luck as you. I got a PDS2300 which originally had a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>hard drive.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>I do not want to keep the hard drive so I removed it, and put in my
>>>>>m0n0wall written CF card in the appropriate slot. However, it does
>>>>>not seem to be booting (or at least I don't think). I must have to
>>>>>tell the bios to use the CF card. Just not sure how to get
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>in it, or
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>view it. Will the bios come over the serial port using a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>null modem
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>cable and a terminal program like hyperterminal?
>>>>>
>>>>>Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Vince Van De Coevering wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>Chris,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I used a USB card reader to write the CF card using the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>instructions
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>on the
>>>>>>m0n0 site and plugged the CF card into the built in CF socket.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No changes to the NIC configs were necessary.
>>>>>>I know that an IDE to CF adapter works on the ide channel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>on the PDS2100
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>motherboard (because I broke a pin on the built in CF
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>socket). There
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>is a 5
>>>>>>volt socket on the motherboard to power the adapter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The first PDS2100 I used did not have the a drive installed
>>>>>>(Checkpoint was
>>>>>>loaded from the CF card). I'm going to try a hard drive
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>install on
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>the unit
>>>>>>currently on my test bench. I'll pull the drive, attach it to my
>>>>>>desktop
>>>>>>system and use the write utility. There isn't much point
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>in having
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>the hard
>>>>>>drive installed unless you boot from it, especially if the logs are
>>>>>>forwarded a dedicated logging server.
>>>>>>Vince Van De Coevering
>>>>>>IT Manager
>>>>>>Figaro's Italian Pizza, Inc.
>>>>>>503-371-9318 x216
>>>>>>vpv at figaros dot com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>From: Christopher M. Iarocci [mailto:iarocci at eastendsc dot com] Sent:
>>>>>>>September 15, 2005 4:56 PM
>>>>>>>To: Vince Van De Coevering
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] Excellent (and affordable) m0n0 platform
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Vince,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I just realized that the PDS2300 must be using SIS chipset NIC
>>>>>>>cards, which is why you were able to just log right in. I'm
>>>>>>>assuming you did not have to change the NIC assignment at the
>>>>>>>console at all, which can only lead to the conclusion that the
>>>>>>>default SIS driver works on the NICs built into the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>device. My last
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>question then is, did you use an IDE to CF adaptor to write your
>>>>>>>card, or did you use a USB card reader/writer? Also, did
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>you remove
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>the hard drive from the device?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Vince Van De Coevering wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Chris,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You can configure m0n0 without the using the serial console.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I put the generic m0n0 image on a cf card, installed the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>card, and booted
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the unit. Using a crossover cable I connected a pc and set
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>it to an IP on
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the default address block (192.168.1.x) and pointed my browser at
>>>>>>>>192.168.1.1 <http://192.168.1.1> and was greeted by the m0n0 GUI. 
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>From there I
>>    
>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>was able to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>configure everything.
>>>>>>>>When I get some spare time (and a spare machine) I'm going
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>to look a bit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>closer at FreeBSD. I generally use Gentoo Linux when I need
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>a unix-based
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>server.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Vince Van De Coevering
>>>>>>>>IT Manager
>>>>>>>>Figaro's Italian Pizza, Inc.
>>>>>>>>503-371-9318 x216
>>>>>>>>vpv at figaros dot com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>From: Christopher M. Iarocci
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>[mailto:iarocci at eastendsc dot com] Sent:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>September 07, 2005 7:28 PM
>>>>>>>>>To: Vince Van De Coevering
>>>>>>>>>Cc: 'm0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch'
>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] Excellent (and affordable) m0n0 platform
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Vince Van De Coevering wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>The intrusion.com <http://intrusion.com> PDS 2100 series of 
>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>
>>appliances make
>>    
>>
>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>an
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>excellent and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>affordable m0n0 platform.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>There are several on ebay and I just purchased 2 for
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>$9.95 each.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>http://cgi.ebay.com/Intrusion-PDS2300-Firewall-Router-Warrant
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>y_W0QQitemZ5800
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>792840QQcategoryZ51168QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The one gotcha with these devices is that they don't have
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>video cards (they
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>use a serial port instead) so you have to connect a PC to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the LAN interface
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>and use a web browser to configure them. Or you can
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>customize the kernel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>use the serial console.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Most come with 3 10/100 ports, 2 USB ports, Celeron 600
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>CPU
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>and 64 or 128
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>megs of ram (can replace the DIMM to increase size).
>>>>>>>>>They have a CF slot for booting and some include 10 meg
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>SFF
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>(laptop sized)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>hard drives.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Vince Van De Coevering
>>>>>>>>>IT Manager
>>>>>>>>>Figaro's Italian Pizza, Inc.
>>>>>>>>>503-371-9318 x216
>>>>>>>>>vpv at figaros dot com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Vince,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Have you, or do you know anyone who has modified the kernel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>to be able
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>to use the serial console with this unit? I'm confused at
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>how you would
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>use the LAN interface to configure the router since the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>generic version
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>requires you to first assign that NIC. Did you modify the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>XML file to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>designate the LAN NIC ahead of the original boot maybe?
>>>>>>>>FYI, I have one of these coming to me. Wanted to try it
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>out, although
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>none were to be found as cheap as you bought them. I paid
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>$31 on Ebay.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Chris
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
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