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 From:  Paul Taylor <PaulTaylor at winn dash dixie dot com>
 To:  jcassel at softwaresedge dot com, m0n0wall <m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch>
 Subject:  RE: [m0n0wall] Trouble Connecting to XO T1
 Date:  Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:51:42 -0400
Have you tried a crossover cable from the large box to the Monowall?  The
router port on the Netgear is probably internally crossing it over..


-----Original Message-----
From: jcassel at softwaresedge dot com [mailto:jcassel at softwaresedge dot com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 3:35 PM
To: m0n0wall
Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] Trouble Connecting to XO T1

there is a "large box"(no labels or text of any kind where the phone lines
and
T1 com in to the facility. This has a rj45 jack on it. currently that is
then
directly connected to the Netgear router with a standard strait though cat 5
cable(rj45).

I have tried connecting with that same cable and a crossover cable to the
port
on the "large Box". I think/thought the "large box" is/was the CSU/DSU
hardware. But since I can seem to get the Ethernet interface on the 
Monowall to
even light up I am not so sure anymore. That would make sense though.

One of the main reasons I want to use the Monowall is so I can use the 
multiple
Ips available. With this netgear router at the front I can't to do that.

John

Quoting Ethan Bonick <ethan at networkinggeeks dot com>:

> The RP614v2 is a Cable/DSl Router.
> http://kbserver.netgear.com/products/rp614v2.asp As for this connecting
> directly to a T1, it can't. There has to be a CSU/DSU unit in front of
> it for your connection to work.
>
> Are you sure you are working with a T1 line? How is this netgear setup
> on the wan? DHCP, PPPOE?
>
> Netgear actually makes some decent equipment. My day job uses Netgear
> switches and we require Netgear routers for use with our Sonicwall
> firewall/vpn because they just work.
>
> Ethan
>
> jcassel at softwaresedge dot com wrote:
>> There are several replies as of my reading this so i will try to 
>> reply to all
>> here. First Thanks for the feedback guys/gals
>>
>> OK the netgear model number is RP614v2 (any real world Knowledge on 
>> this model
>> would help)
>> I read the spec and I did not find any indication that it is 
>> special, but I was
>> told that "They" the people be for me tried a bunch of routers that did
not
>> work. This leads to the theory that it might have a built in 
>> CSU/DSU. But that
>> seems like an odd thing for a residential type router.
>>
>> As for the way I am connecting I would like to remove the Netgear 
>> router from
>> the equation. There are too many cheap switches in this place that I am
not
>> sure I found them all. One less would be a good thing.
>>
>> If it turns out to be a CSU/DSU issue what are the alternatives? I 
>> really want
>> to use a small low power device that has no moving parts to worry about.
>>
>> Thanks again for the help.
>>
>>
>>
>> Quoting Paul Taylor <PaulTaylor at winn dash dixie dot com>:
>>
>>> It sounds like the netgear device has an integrated CSU/DSU.  If you are
>>> using a Soekris box without a T1 card, it won't work..
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: jcassel at softwaresedge dot com [mailto:jcassel at softwaresedge dot com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 10:07 AM
>>> To: m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
>>> Subject: RE: [m0n0wall] Trouble Connecting to XO T1
>>>
>>> I am trying to connect directly to the incoming T1. Currently the
>>> netgear device
>>> is connected in this way.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> Quoting Andrew Cotter <andrew dot cotter at somersetcapital dot com>:
>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: jcassel at softwaresedge dot com [mailto:jcassel at softwaresedge dot com]
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 9:13 AM
>>>>> To: m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
>>>>> Subject: [m0n0wall] Trouble Connecting to XO T1
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am trying to replace a generic netgear router with a m0n0wall
>>>>> [Net4501]. I
>>>>> have install this same setup in several other locations with no
>>>>> issues. Only
>>>>> thing that is different is the at this is a T1 from XO and not a
>>>>> DSL or Cable
>>>>> connection. I can't seem to get the network interface on the
>>>>> M0n0wall to light
>>>>> up. I also tried to connect using a crossover with no success. I
>>>>> am baffled as
>>>>> to what the issue could be. This connection works if I use the
>>>>> Netgear router.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can connect the M0nowall to the internal(lan side of the router)
with
>>> no
>>>>> issues. It works fine. I know it is a physical connection issue
>>>>> because when
>>>>> connected to the lan or a cable modem it works like expected.
>>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone seen this before? Can you give me some direction. I
>>>>> looked on the
>>>>> list archive and found no direct references.
>>>>>
>>>>> I really need a little advice here I'm starting to get some bad
>>>>> internal press
>>>>> on the M0n0wall/real firewall issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Are you trying to plug the T1 into a regular ethernet card or is there
>>> some
>>>> sort of router in front of your m0n0wall box?
>>>>
>>>> Andrew
>>>>
>>>>
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