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 From:  "Lee Sharp" <leesharp at hal dash pc dot org>
 To:  "m0n0wall" <m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch>
 Subject:  Re: [m0n0wall] Ethernet Cards and Appliances
 Date:  Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:53:34 -0500
From: "Chet Harvey" <chet at pittech dot com>

> They take the old PC133 memory. IMHO customers like to see an "appliance" 
> rather
> than a desktop as their firewall so the extra $50 is worth it. I found 
> customers
> were skeptical when we would bring in anything but an appliance.

Perception is %110 of our business.  (Shows in many decisions)  The %90 we 
do to make it work is not important. :-)  Now those cases are nice, and I am 
still looking for other options, but I have a hard time paying more for less 
hardware.  As a comparison, here is some stuff from a wholesaler who happens 
to be local to me.  (And yet I still have them ship half the time...)

Very small (appliance like) Case    $62.99
Still very small Case                       $47.99
Still very small Case                       $43.99

Single ethernet 800mhz board        $105.00
Duel ethernet 1Ghz board               $148.00

Cheap 128 meg memory                $12.99

Cheap D-Link NIC                        $4.99
Good Intel NIC                            $24.00
Very nice Intel Duel port NIC        $34.00

Psudo Hard drive                            $18.90

So, a all new, loaded m0n0 box with a small case, 128m ram, an Intel duel 
port nic, and one slow WAN port on board with a CF "hard drive" comes to 
$214.88  And if you have a pile of Intel NICs laying around, or use the 
cheap D-link you are well under $200.  And keep in mind that the onboard VIA 
ether ports are in the same class as the D-link...  And if you suddenly 
decide to order from the, make sure you drop my name. :-)