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On 11/15/05 15:04 sai said the following: > with more than 15 voip phones working at the same time I get some echo > and buzzing sounds when shaping is turned on. Any ideas as to why echo > happens in voip networks? echo happens usually at the hybrid between the analog and digital circuits. if it's a pure VoIP call, then echo is most likely caused by the microphone or speaker of the handsets you're using. echo cannot be introduced on the wire in a pure VoIP call as the transmit path does not leak into the receive path. however, if you have shaping turned on, any traffic latency caused by the traffic shaper could affect the jitter of your voip packets. if you've got a jitter buffer or some sort of PLC (packet loss concealment) in your voip devices, this could be causing the buzz. try turning off PLC. http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk652/tk701/technologies_white_paper09186a00800d6b68.shtml -- Regards, /\_/\ "All dogs go to heaven." dinesh at alphaque dot com (0 0) http://www.alphaque.com/ +==========================----oOO--(_)--OOo----==========================+ | for a in past present future; do | | for b in clients employers associates relatives neighbours pets; do | | echo "The opinions here in no way reflect the opinions of my $a $b." | | done; done | +=========================================================================+ |