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 From:  "Giobbi, Ryan" <rgiobbi at AGOC dot com>
 To:  <m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch>
 Subject:  RE: [m0n0wall] Re: UPnP as a possible future option?
 Date:  Wed, 30 Nov 2005 12:10:39 -0500
> Name a single *real* firewall that supports UPNP. There aren't any,
> because
> it's a ridiculously bad idea.
> I'm sufficiently tired of hearing people ask for something to make
> horribly insecure though, so at this point if somebody wants to add
> support
> that's disabled by default, more power to 'em. ;)
> -Chris

I saw the above challenge in the list archives and found two real
firewall configuration tools (both use IPTables on the backend) that
support UPnP.

- Shorewall 

- Firewall Builder

-----Original Message-----
From: news [mailto:news at sea dot gmane dot org] On Behalf Of Braden McGrath
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 9:30 AM
To: m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
Subject: [m0n0wall] Re: UPnP as a possible future option?

Mas Libman <mas <at> masandwendy.com> writes:

> (Braden, you might take a look at Smoothwall.org if UPNP is that 
> important.)

I'll keep it in mind, but last I was aware Smoothwall doesn't run on
Soekris hardware.  :(  I have a net48xx and the silence and low heat
output are important due to the location of the router.  If I could get
Smoothwall to run on it, then I'd go that route, but to my knowledge
it's not a supported configuration, even if I throw a huge CF card in

It's kind of sad when most $50 cheap-o home routers support UPnP, but it
isn't even offered as an *option* in m0n0, which is supposed to be a
superior solution.  I'm not suggesting that UPnP should be enabled by
default or anything insane like that, but I can't imagine that it is too
hard to add...

Or maybe it is, I can say after checking out the current (sorry) state
of UPnP development for BSD.  :(

Guess I'll just have to live with it then.

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