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 From:  Jens Jensen <jens at valenceartist dot com>
 Cc:  m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
 Subject:  Re: [m0n0wall] selling monowall cds on ebay
 Date:  Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:59:22 -0600
Wow, it appears that I noticed an even more glaring issue with this post
that regular ebay Terms of Service would pull that auction on... Take a
closer look at the first paragraph of the auction description, then take
a look at the first two paragraphs of the monowall project description
at http://m0n0.ch/wall/

hmm. looks like a bit-for-bit text theft to me..

Now, that would be copyright violations? Ebay author does not credit
"© 2003-2006 by Manuel Kasper <mk at neon1 dot net <mailto:mk at neon1 dot net>>. All
rights reserved." and source being monowall website?

What does Manuel think about this?


Denis Dimick wrote:

>If you read the license, there's nothing preventing someone from selling
>m0n0 CD's on E-bay, for $100 or what ever you could get out of a person. The
>only reason I'd even think someone would buy a m0n0 CD would be a slow
>Internet connection, would m0n0 even be useful to a dial up user? With an
>ISO size of less then 6megs, why someone would buy a copy over download an
>ISO is beyond me.
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>Denis
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>On 1/2/06, William Arlofski <waa dash m0n0wall at revpol dot com> wrote:
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>>Jens Jensen wrote:
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>>>I know that it's not illegal or unscrupulous to download a GPL iso, burn
>>>it to cd/dvd, while only selling the media, burning service and charging
>>>a reasonable amount. I do, however, question somebody who sells some
>>>GPL(or similar FOSS) software on ebay who does not openly state that: 1..
>>>this software is not his own product - he is just selling a cd/dvd
>>>burning service, etc, and 2. this software is freely available by
>>>internet download (and be nice enough to mention where)
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>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7190686063&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:1
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>>>What are others thoughts on this?
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>>I tend to agree with your line of thinking, but I would like to add the
>>following cynical viewpoint of my own:
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>>I feel that if someone does not even know enough about the product
>>he/she is selling, then they don't deserve to have customers purchasing
>>said product from them.
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>>eg: from the link you posted -
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>>Listed in category:     Computers & Networking > Software > Operating
>>Systems > Linux
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>>Ummm, last I checked m0n0wall was FreeBSD, and last I checked
>>FreeBSD != Linux.
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>>Sigh
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>>But then again, if someone BUYS a "product" on eBay without so much as a
>>quick Google search to locate the homepage of said product, then they
>>also get what they deserve.
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>>
>>My $0.02
>>
>>Happy New Year everyone!
>>--
>>Bill Arlofski
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