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Hi Mark, You and Dick are in the same ballpark that Mike seems unable to gain access to. The game's not hard - the rules are quite simple. Mike, when and where did I ask for a personal email or phone call about an upgrade? I mean, what on Earth are you smoking? I'd recommend whatever it is, you start thinking about laying off it. I asked that for the m0n0wall community - not Hilton Travis - an "Updates Available" section in the webGUI would be a good idea. You don't think so - that's fine. You can keep reading through the email list looking for information on that security update. I imagine a great majotity of users would rather find this out directly from the webGUI. If you want to start reading through every one on my 1000+ emails per day, then pull up a chair, make a cuppa, and get settled in for the long haul. I sure as hell don't have the time to read each and every email I receive daily to the mailing lists I am subscribed to. As another person who manages multiple firewalls, being informed via the webGUI is an ideal, sensible and appropriate place to be informed. Many other products do this - and if you want to waste $20,000 or so on a PIX/Checkpoint solution, then be my guest. Regards, HiltonT On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 22:49, Mark Spieth wrote: > I would have to agree, Fist off, If you are dealing with an opensource > project such as m0n0wall, IPCop etc.. and are on the mailing list you > will get an email via the list already when there are updates etc.. And > secondly personally, I know for a fact that any such emails for me would > get sorted into a folder and never looked at... The last thing I want is > another email. I manage 200+ firewalls for clients, so at least once a > day I am on the GUI to administer them, If I see an update then on the > GUI then I can determine if I need to spend the rest of the day > installing updates on the rest of the firewalls. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dick Morrell [mailto:dick at dickmorrell dot com] > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 7:30 AM > To: m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch > Subject: RE: [m0n0wall] m0n0wall feature request > > > > For my money, if someone is using Open Source stuff then they should > be prepared to follow what is happening within the community (and give > back to it, like the good beginners guide that Michael A. Alderete has > written, and made available) > > > > If you want the software maintainer to announce patches, upgrades etc, > then pay them for it and they should be only too happy to send you mail > alerts, phone you whatever you want. > > In the firewall market there exists people like Cisco (PIX), > Checkpoint (FW1) etc, who would be MORE than happy to tell you all about > their fine upgrades etc, once you have been separated from your cash > > </RANT> > > Also Mike go install SW and IPCop or a number of other firewall > solutions which prompt the user to refresh an update list. In SW its a > CGI that goes away and does a remote lookup to see if there is an update > other than those installed. Your response to a generic simple software > call was actually pretty silly. > > Its common sense to put it in the GUI because generically that IS your > view to the world. EMail alerts are cool but no-one uses them and its a > pants 1990's way of working - simple little php script that does a > lookup to a remote host. Not difficult stuff. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: m0n0wall dash unsubscribe at lists dot m0n0 dot ch > For additional commands, e-mail: m0n0wall dash help at lists dot m0n0 dot ch > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: m0n0wall dash unsubscribe at lists dot m0n0 dot ch > For additional commands, e-mail: m0n0wall dash help at lists dot m0n0 dot ch -- Regards, Hilton Travis Email: Hilton at QuarkAV dot com Manager, Quark AudioVisual Phone: +61-(0)7-3343-3889 Quark Computers Phone: +61-(0)419-792-394 (Brisbane, Australia) http://www.QuarkAV.com/ Open Source Projects: http://www.ares-desktop.org/ http://www.mamboband.org/ Non Linear Video Editing Solutions & Digital Audio Workstations Network Administration, SmoothWall Firewalls, NOD32 AntiVirus Conference and Seminar AudioVisual Production and Recording War doesn't determine who is right. War determines who is left. |