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 From:  SDamron <sdamron at gmail dot com>
 To:  "Lee Sharp" <leesharp at hal dash pc dot org>
 Cc:  "Jonathan De Graeve" <Jonathan dot De dot Graeve at imelda dot be>, "Mark Jawdoszak" <MarkJ at logsysgroup dot com>, "Damien Hull" <dhull at digitaloverload dot net>, m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
 Subject:  Re: [m0n0wall] RE: m0n0wall vs Linksys etc...
 Date:  Thu, 15 Jun 2006 11:28:29 -0500
THAT is what I was talking about.  Do not try to hide the fact that it
is something they can get for free.  Providing a "Value Add" is where
the money is, anyone can install it, but can they "Use" it, being can
they actually secure a network with it, and fix it when a problem
arises.  I have no issue with that, I do it with Linux/other stuff
quite often, but I do not hide the fact that I am not the one who
developed it.

Honesty is the best policy, and not _just_ my Mother said that :o)

On 6/15/06, Lee Sharp <leesharp at hal dash pc dot org> wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:00:13 +0200
>  "Jonathan De Graeve" <Jonathan dot De dot Graeve at imelda dot be> wrote:
> >> If the dev dude ever decided to take it commercial, I think
> >> he could beat out a good number of the ones that sell for very high
> >> dollars!
> > I'm sure some people already do sell this firmware rebranded under
> >there
> > own name.
> I do, in a way.  It is still m0n0wall, and all licenses remain intact.
>  We re-brand it, but in no way take credit.  We just sell the hardware
> with service and support.  (Also a few other changes, like change the
> default config to the nics in the box, not sis0 and sis1) One guy
> looked and said, "Hey I can get that free!"  We said, "Of course.  The
> web site is..."  After looking at it, and the forums, and seeing my
> name, he called us back. :-)  A few other vendors on here also sell
> m0n0 systems.  The key is not trying to hide what it is.  Installing a
> "solution" is a lot of work.  Many people are willing to pay for that.
>  More are willing to pay for a phone number they can call.  There is
> enough money to be made honestly.
>                     Lee

When all you have is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail.
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