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On recycling old devices, > 1) ugly as sin Granted. Though, in a cabinet or hidden out of the way, who cares? > 2) noisy as hell Until you replace or remove the fans, sure. As m0n0 doesn't use the hard disk during usage, the machine should only be noisy for the first minute or so, and during any config updates. With many older, slow machines (300mhz and lower range) you can usually get away without a CPU fan at all if you've got a decent heatsink on the thing. > 3) guzzle power like the devil Well worth measuring power usage on this one. The old celeron 300s and 333s I've deployed at clients' premises never use more than about 30W. While it's still high compared to the ~7W that my net4501 draws, it's far from 200W. Hell, even my 9 HDD dual xeon backup server only draws 235W under full load. > 4) are old and have too many points of failure for my liking On the other hand, if you get old business-class hardware, many of the components have been built to last unlike modern motherboards, etc. which seem to routinely fail after 18 months to 2 years. > We need to move onto 1ghz + machines, still passively, but > intelligently cooled (even top of range Soekris has no CPU > heatsink and the box has not even given the first thought to > cooling/airflow). I recently ordered a nice half-depth 1U ITX chassis for a colleague's setup. I must say that it, combined with a via C3 (or one of the later chips) makes a really nice setup. The half-depth means it can go into a wallbox along with switches and patch panels. I think this is probably the route I'll take with firewall deployments in the future, provided the via chips' floating point performance (or lack thereof) doesn't cripple throughput too much. Regards, Chris -- C.M. Bagnall, Director, Minotaur I.T. Limited This email is made from 100% recycled electrons |