On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 11:57:06 -0400
"Chris Buechler" <cbuechler at gmail dot com> wrote:
> On 6/16/06, Lee Sharp <leesharp at hal dash pc dot org> wrote:
>> $399 plus expensive memory and a CF!
> Expensive memory? It's PC133, I don't know anybody that doesn't
> a stack of PC133 somewhere or some dead box with PC133 that can be
> yanked. Even if you have to buy it, it's practically free.
In your closet or used it is cheap/free. On that site, 128meg was
$40! The memory THEY have is expensive.
>> http://www.directron.com/sc512l.html with
> Have you actually performance tested that? It also has extra junk
> rather not have on a firewall (sound, TV out, etc.). You also need
> IDE to CF adapter for that, then you have to worry about which
> will work with the board, and which CF cards will work with that
> adapter, etc.
I have not benchmarked it, but I have used several, and they have yet
to peg CPU. All of the extras can be turned off in the BIOS, which I
do on any system, and they support the Transcend IDE CF module that I
love so much. (Under $20) I have one like that right now with a cheap
RealTek nic pounding away under heavy load with VPN. No problems at
>For $200, on the project he's talking about, it isn't worth the
> trouble. $200 is nothing in the scheme of things. You can quickly
> burn up way more than that in time trying to muck around with a less
> than ideal hacked together solution like that.
A very good point. That was why I was less inclined to support it
when I did not see m0n0wall as a preloaded OS. I would recommend
paying a premium for support, but it looked unsupported. If you have
to support it yourself, go cheaper... :-)
> I recommended the Nehemiah based on significant testing I've done on
> that particular unit (Hacom donated one to me for m0n0wall/pfsense
> testing). It'll push 100 Mb wire speed, with power to spare. Plus,
> it has the Padlock crypto accelerator that will be supported in 1.3.
> And getting up and going is just a matter of plugging in the RAM and
> CF and turning it on.
So why is only linux in the dropdown? They know about m0n0wall...
Anyway, I was mainly pointing out another cheaper configuration that
I know works well. However, I have not actually benchmarked it. Do
you have a benchmark HOWTO somewhere? I would love to throughly test
some of the hardware we have out there. Plus a standadr for
benchmarking would allow everyone to do it. Could be a lot of good
> Yeah, there are solutions that are cheaper hardware-wise. But
> hardware cost is far from the only thing to consider in the cost of
> the solution.
My favorite phrase is "There is nothing more expensive that a cheap
fix." However, there is no reason to may more for the same stuff. It
is a fine line, and takes a lot of knowledge to tell the difference