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Hi Jonathan, Yes, there is a version with 1 gigabit and 2 10/100 Intel Nics. They are being phased out however, due to low demands. http://shopping.hacom.net/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=86 I would recommend the 3 gigabit Nic version. They are pricey right now, but we hope to reduce its cost by at least $50 by end of summer. They use DDR RAM, so the total system cost may be lower. http://shopping.hacom.net/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=76 Thanks. Bao On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 07:29:32PM +0200, Jonathan De Graeve wrote: > Any chance on getting these boxes with Intel nics? > > J. > > ________________________________ > > Van: Bao C. Ha [mailto:bao at hacom dot net] > Verzonden: vr 16/06/2006 19:13 > Aan: m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch > Onderwerp: Re: [m0n0wall] Cheap Hardware > > > > Hi Lee, > > You have raised a few good points and I would like to address > them. > > 1. The cv860a3r10-based 1u rack utilizes low-profile PC133 dimms. > It is becoming harder to get this type of dimms. We are not in the > DRAM business and that's reflected in the DRAM price. It's the > same issue with the CF. > > You do have a choice of getting the DRAM from other sources. It's > just standard low-profile, low-density PC133 SDRAM memory. The > high density like those 32x4 or 64x4 do not work! > > By the end of this year, we will have a similar c7 board replacing > these. They will use DDR or DDR2 SDRAM, which should make them > cheaper. However, the RAM will always be more expensive than > normal due to the low-profile height requirements. > > We are also trying to bring down the prices of other systems, > especially the Intel gigabit based ones, hopefully, by the end > of the summer. It is usually a question of volume, and we hope > to get there. > > Also, many people are getting the Wrap or the Soekris 4801, > which approaches our price points. > > 2. Why Linux? We have the expertise to develop Linux device > drivers. However, we are very new to FreeBSD and don't want to > make much claims about it. Our hardware have also been extensively > utilized in the OpenBSD community, mainly in the Universities, > education institutes. > > 3. For cheap hardware, I would just go to FleaBay once in a > while to get those thin-client. They are small, quiet and fast. > A 180Mhz Geode with 64MB RAM can do wonders. I sold a good > M0n0wall machine on FleaBay for about $6-7 a month ago, I think. > > Thanks. > Bao > > On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 11:10:44AM -0500, Lee Sharp wrote: > > On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 11:57:06 -0400 > > "Chris Buechler" <cbuechler at gmail dot com> wrote: > > >On 6/16/06, Lee Sharp <leesharp at hal dash pc dot org> wrote: > > > > >>$399 plus expensive memory and a CF! > > > > >Expensive memory? It's PC133, I don't know anybody that doesn't > > >have > > >a stack of PC133 somewhere or some dead box with PC133 that can be > > >yanked. Even if you have to buy it, it's practically free. > > > > In your closet or used it is cheap/free. On that site, 128meg was > > $40! The memory THEY have is expensive. > > > > >>http://www.directron.com/sc512l.html <https://webvpn.imelda.be/http/www.directron.com/sc512l.html> with > > >>http://www.directron.com/epia800.html <https://webvpn.imelda.be/http/www.directron.com/epia800.html> > > > > >Have you actually performance tested that? It also has extra junk > > >I'd > > >rather not have on a firewall (sound, TV out, etc.). You also need > > >a > > >IDE to CF adapter for that, then you have to worry about which > > >adapter > > >will work with the board, and which CF cards will work with that > > >adapter, etc. > > > > I have not benchmarked it, but I have used several, and they have yet > > to peg CPU. All of the extras can be turned off in the BIOS, which I > > do on any system, and they support the Transcend IDE CF module that I > > love so much. (Under $20) I have one like that right now with a cheap > > RealTek nic pounding away under heavy load with VPN. No problems at > > all. > > > > >For $200, on the project he's talking about, it isn't worth the > > >trouble. $200 is nothing in the scheme of things. You can quickly > > >burn up way more than that in time trying to muck around with a less > > >than ideal hacked together solution like that. > > > > A very good point. That was why I was less inclined to support it > > when I did not see m0n0wall as a preloaded OS. I would recommend > > paying a premium for support, but it looked unsupported. If you have > > to support it yourself, go cheaper... :-) > > > > >I recommended the Nehemiah based on significant testing I've done on > > >that particular unit (Hacom donated one to me for m0n0wall/pfsense > > >testing). It'll push 100 Mb wire speed, with power to spare. Plus, > > >it has the Padlock crypto accelerator that will be supported in 1.3. > > >And getting up and going is just a matter of plugging in the RAM and > > >CF and turning it on. > > > > So why is only linux in the dropdown? They know about m0n0wall... > > Anyway, I was mainly pointing out another cheaper configuration that > > I know works well. However, I have not actually benchmarked it. Do > > you have a benchmark HOWTO somewhere? I would love to throughly test > > some of the hardware we have out there. Plus a standadr for > > benchmarking would allow everyone to do it. Could be a lot of good > > information fast. > > > > >Yeah, there are solutions that are cheaper hardware-wise. But > > >hardware cost is far from the only thing to consider in the cost of > > >the solution. > > > > My favorite phrase is "There is nothing more expensive that a cheap > > fix." However, there is no reason to may more for the same stuff. It > > is a fine line, and takes a lot of knowledge to tell the difference > > sometimes. > > > > Lee > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: m0n0wall dash unsubscribe at lists dot m0n0 dot ch > > For additional commands, e-mail: m0n0wall dash help at lists dot m0n0 dot ch > > -- > Best Regards. > Bao C. Ha > Hacom OpenBrick Distributor USA http://www.hacom.net <https://webvpn.imelda.be/http/www.hacom.net> > voice: (714) 530-8817 fax: (714) 530-8818 > 8D66 6672 7A9B 6879 85CD 42E0 9F6C 7908 ED95 6B38 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: m0n0wall dash unsubscribe at lists dot m0n0 dot ch > For additional commands, e-mail: m0n0wall dash help at lists dot m0n0 dot ch > > > > > -- Best Regards. Bao C. Ha Hacom OpenBrick Distributor USA http://www.hacom.net voice: (714) 530-8817 fax: (714) 530-8818 8D66 6672 7A9B 6879 85CD 42E0 9F6C 7908 ED95 6B38 |