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 From:  "Brian Z" <mono at ricerage dot org>
 To:  <m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch>
 Subject:  Re: [m0n0wall] Statement regarding m0n0wall features
 Date:  Tue, 27 Jan 2004 14:31:56 -0500 (EST)
Whoa now.

I fully appreciate the fact that I'm sticking my nose where it doesn't
belong, and should thus stay the hell out of it, but I'm Just Not Going

I really don't believe there were any demands made at all. Dany here is
simply saying the addition of the mentioned features would complete
"Dany's vision of Firewall Utopia."

Keep in mind, many of us who use m0n0wall (or any firewalls otherwise)
aren't necessarily coders. I for one would love to see some features added
that I am in no way capable of creating myself. Does it make me
incompetent in regards to network security? I don't believe so.

Dick, I have used SmoothWall in the past, and I think it too is a great
tool. No one here can deny you have the experience and skills necessary to
make such a project succeed.

Your point would be complete valid (if not flat out lauded) if this were a
development list. I'm sure you've dealt with a great number of demands and
other foolish inquiries in such a forum. Please remember, we're just the
silly end users. No need to make us cry. ;)


> Dany Nativel wrote:
>> Manuel,
>> I think the "to do / Wishlist" on your website clearly shows the path.
>> Bring us OpenVPN and certificates for IPSec and we'll be all set.
>> I've tried e-smith, smoothwall and lately IPcop on an old PC. I got
>> tired about noise, size and power consumption. I'm about to receive a
>> 4501 for  monowall and will be using a mini-itx 533MHz board in an
>> ultra-small case for the file server (and maybe IPsec for WLAN if the
>> 4501 is too slow).
>> Thank you for this amazing 5MB product.
>> Cheers
>> Dany
> Or Dany go write your own and stop making demands. Why can't you do this
>  yourself and send it to Manuel as your contribution ? Or is it because
> you haven't the first clue what you're talking about or have an inkling
> of the hardwork thats needed. Hell what do I know I've only deployed
> what ??? 7 million firewalls more than anyone else on this list.
> Dick
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