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 From:  "Chris Buechler" <cbuechler at gmail dot com>
 To:  "Mono Wall list" <m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch>
 Subject:  Re: [m0n0wall] Re: why dont we have forum?
 Date:  Fri, 5 Jan 2007 18:54:06 -0500
(quoted below was sent to me directly, intended for list)

On 1/5/07, lgrant at adamscon dot com <lgrant at adamscon dot com> wrote:
> I'm of mixed feelings on the list vs. forum issue.  I think I prefer
> forums when I'm there, but if you contribute to a lot of forums, making
> the rounds of them all can be a real pain.  The list comes to you.

Yeah, I've noticed myself lately preferring to have a forum available
for software I'm messing with, because forums are generally
substantially easier to browse through the archives of than lists are.
 But, as a contributor, I much prefer lists.

> Nonetheless, I wanted to point out a liability of forums, and that is
> spammers.  If you do not require login to post, you will get innundated
> with spam posts for anti-depressants, viagra, and sex videos.  It's a
> little better if you require registration and sign on, but that is no
> longer a panacea.  There is a program called XRumer that the spammers use,
> which advertises that it can do automatic registration, even responding
> properly to CAPTCHA codes (the little pictures of numbers that you have to
> type in...the ones that are supposedly readable only by humans).  I have
> seen this in use on one of the forums I am on.  The spam is still less
> than if you didn't require registration, but someone's still going to have
> to prune out the spam posts.

I run the pfsense forum and this really hasn't been a major issue.  It
does pop up from time to time, but it's quite rare and things were
tweaked along the way to prevent it from happening.  It'll be the same
as wiki.m0n0.ch, I had to continually change things on it for a while
to keep the spammers out.

> I'm also a little concerned about having to check both the list and the
> forum. On the other hand, if the newbie posts tend to go to the forum,
> this might be a good way to separate out the posts that say "I want to
> install M0n0wall.  Tell me how to do it."

If you're searching for an answer, your best bet now and in the future
would be to Google for whatever it is and append site:m0n0.ch.
That'll search the list archives, documentation, and forum whenever it


> In any case, I am really happy that the list exists, in whatever form it
> may become.  I have learned untold amounts of things about M0n0wall, and
> networking in general, from following the list.
> Be well...
> Lynn Grant
> lgrant at adamscon dot com