I have two of these type of systems with 2 - 800 and 2 - 733 processors. I
have 768 meg of ram in both servers. They run great. They are very loud
and run hot with out enough cooling. If we added a seperate area for this
type of sales area, I think it would be great. Finding hardware for
monowall for me has been a challenge. I don't know enough all the supported
----- Original Message -----
From: "krt" <kkrrtt at gmail dot com>
To: <m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch>
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] 1U 733MHz Dual Socket Server - Technical Disussion
of the hardware and my opinion of m0n0wall mailing list sales activity
> I'm a grouchy old man. You kids better get off my yard or I'll have to
> come after you with my cane!!!!
> Both NICS on this auction item are four port DEC Tulips->Intel EEPro's on
> a chip (21142/21143's commonly) - they were usually sold in Sparc's and
> networking appliances (firewalls, etc.) They're great NICs and well
> supported. They're not by any stretch of anyones imagination a modern
> NIC, as they're both over four years old. Nokia used ZNYX NICs throughout
> their IPseries of firewalls for many years, including a model quite
> similar to the ZX374 on this machine.
> These firewalls take bog standard 64/66 PCI cards (and 32bit) - I'm not
> sure about the voltages as I'm not familiar with that servers backplane.
> These are old Captus Boxes (Captus was bought by Deep Nines, and you've
> likely never heard of either company).
> Grains of Salt:
> If you're planning on using these as an SMP machine, be sure to factor in
> that the box is currently single proc. It's a Socket 370, and as such
> you'll likely have to find matched stepping CPU's to go dual proc.
> In any event, you're looking at obtaining at least one more matching pIII
> to the one that's in there (733's are common) and another low profile CPU
> heatsink for it, which might be a little more difficult to find.
> 128mb ram is adequate for m0n0wall, but plan on bumping up the ram that
> you'll use down the road. Given the it's an SMP box, it's likely going to
> require ECC registered ram or some such, which might cost more.
> These are LOUD. These are just before the era of airflow optimized
> servers. Look at the left of the picture of the open unit and you'll see
> a 40mm fan. Look at the top of the unit in the picture (rear side) and
> you'll see 5 40mm fans. If you look in the northwest corner you might
> spot another 40mm fan, so this unit has at least 7 of them.
> My 2k bytes on this whole posting on the mailing list bit:
> I've posted hardware for sale on this list. I gave a pretty nice discount
> and had some interest in the unit (people still occasionally mail me
> asking about Soekris gear). I have more hardware that the m0n0wall crowd
> might enjoy, like ATA flash units, crypto accelerators, etc. that
> freebsd/m0n0 seem to like. I'm not going to be posting any for the
> duration of this discussion, partly because I've not had a chance to fully
> test the units out.
> If the unit posted to the list is also going on eBay, it's likely that
> someone looking for a firewall box has found it or is searching for it
> already. Marketing to the open source firewall crowd -and- eBay seems
> quite pointless. Now you're forcing the m0n0wall folks (who might not be
> on eBay) to compete with buyers on eBay.
> Marketing a 7 day auction on a mailing list that might push 10-20 messages
> per day is silly. Some people might not see your auction notice until
> it's over. I get people asking about my post on the mailing list, and I
> made that at least three months back.
> How many other mailing lists are these eBay auctions being pushed on?
> Giving a marginal token of appreciation like "free shipping if you mention
> the mailing list" might seem like it makes it all better but the cost is
> distributed amongst all of the mailing list subscriber while only one
> person will benefit directly by the discount. Certainly a basically
> non-discount on a unit will not aid the m0n0wall community much, nor do
> the devs get another box to play with.
> I don't care for spam. I'm sure that most of the folks on this list have
> to deal with spam on a daily basis as part of their jobs. Let's cut it
> out here before we have to implement any "best chance" automated spam
> filters for our m0n0wall list postings!!!
> Basically, if the unit is going to be posted on the mailing list, it
> really shouldn't already be on an Auction site. The discount should
> reflect that you're saving fees on an auction site and the hassle of
> dealing with an auction.
> I suspect that we all have a general feeling of what hardware is
> acceptable for sale/trade on this list. I suspect that we don't have
> enough people with hardware to really warrant an active mailing list
> dedicated to m0n0wall related hardware sales, but I could be quite
> There are pluses and minuses to this, but the point is that this is a
> mailing list primarily for technical discussion, not eBay.
> If a hard stance must be taken, I vote for no sales/solicitation on this
> E-Z Ace wrote:
>> There are at least ten units out there currently being used by monowall
>> users... maybe one of them would like to answer you question regarding
>> promiscuous mode and how they perform. I have personally not used these
>> under heavy loads. Anybody?
>> As for network cards, at the very least they take the Phobos P430 quad
>> and the ZNYX ZX370 Quad Fast Ethernet (64 bit) cards. I am sure they
>> others but I do not know for sure.
>> Let me know if you have any other questions.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Adriel T. Desuatels [mailto:adriel at netragard dot com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 7:16 AM
>> To: E-Z Ace
>> Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] 1U 733MHz Dual Socket Server For Sale.
>> Can you provide me with the technical specifications and costs of
>> systems. Specifically, I need to understand what types of network cards
>> use and how well they perform in promiscuous mode.
>> On 2/21/07 1:46 AM, "E-Z Ace" <ez123 at acequality dot net> wrote:
>>> I've asked before if selling on this thread is forbidden. Also, a lot
>>> people have benefited from the 1U servers that I've been selling. A few
>>> the people who have bought in the past have indicated that this is
>>> what they have been looking for. I think these servers are ideal for
>>> monowall... hence the reason I'm publishing here.
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Adriel T. Desuatels [mailto:adriel at netragard dot com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 10:26 PM
>>> To: E-Z Ace; m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
>>> Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] 1U 733MHz Dual Socket Server For Sale.
>>> On 2/21/07 1:03 AM, "E-Z Ace" <ez123 at acequality dot net> wrote:
>>>> More details at:
>>>> Note that this one has 2 quad cards for a total of 9 interfaces.
>>>> If you are the winning bidder, mention this mailing list and get FREE
>>>> SHIPPING to lower 48 states. Or if AL, HI or international, I can give
>>>> $20 shipping credit.
>>>> Look at my other listings for two quad cards... very useful for
>>>> Also free shipping on those other cards if you mention this thread.
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>>> Office: 617-924-4510 || Mobile : 857-636-8882
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