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I have two of these type of systems with 2 - 800 and 2 - 733 processors. I have 768 meg of ram in both servers. They run great. They are very loud and run hot with out enough cooling. If we added a seperate area for this type of sales area, I think it would be great. Finding hardware for monowall for me has been a challenge. I don't know enough all the supported hard yet. RC ----- Original Message ----- From: "krt" <kkrrtt at gmail dot com> To: <m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] 1U 733MHz Dual Socket Server - Technical Disussion of the hardware and my opinion of m0n0wall mailing list sales activity > I'm a grouchy old man. You kids better get off my yard or I'll have to > come after you with my cane!!!! > > Anyways: > > Both NICS on this auction item are four port DEC Tulips->Intel EEPro's on > a chip (21142/21143's commonly) - they were usually sold in Sparc's and > networking appliances (firewalls, etc.) They're great NICs and well > supported. They're not by any stretch of anyones imagination a modern > NIC, as they're both over four years old. Nokia used ZNYX NICs throughout > their IPseries of firewalls for many years, including a model quite > similar to the ZX374 on this machine. > > These firewalls take bog standard 64/66 PCI cards (and 32bit) - I'm not > sure about the voltages as I'm not familiar with that servers backplane. > > > These are old Captus Boxes (Captus was bought by Deep Nines, and you've > likely never heard of either company). > > > Grains of Salt: > > If you're planning on using these as an SMP machine, be sure to factor in > that the box is currently single proc. It's a Socket 370, and as such > you'll likely have to find matched stepping CPU's to go dual proc. > > In any event, you're looking at obtaining at least one more matching pIII > to the one that's in there (733's are common) and another low profile CPU > heatsink for it, which might be a little more difficult to find. > > 128mb ram is adequate for m0n0wall, but plan on bumping up the ram that > you'll use down the road. Given the it's an SMP box, it's likely going to > require ECC registered ram or some such, which might cost more. > > These are LOUD. These are just before the era of airflow optimized > servers. Look at the left of the picture of the open unit and you'll see > a 40mm fan. Look at the top of the unit in the picture (rear side) and > you'll see 5 40mm fans. If you look in the northwest corner you might > spot another 40mm fan, so this unit has at least 7 of them. > > > > My 2k bytes on this whole posting on the mailing list bit: > > I've posted hardware for sale on this list. I gave a pretty nice discount > and had some interest in the unit (people still occasionally mail me > asking about Soekris gear). I have more hardware that the m0n0wall crowd > might enjoy, like ATA flash units, crypto accelerators, etc. that > freebsd/m0n0 seem to like. I'm not going to be posting any for the > duration of this discussion, partly because I've not had a chance to fully > test the units out. > > > If the unit posted to the list is also going on eBay, it's likely that > someone looking for a firewall box has found it or is searching for it > already. Marketing to the open source firewall crowd -and- eBay seems > quite pointless. Now you're forcing the m0n0wall folks (who might not be > on eBay) to compete with buyers on eBay. > > Marketing a 7 day auction on a mailing list that might push 10-20 messages > per day is silly. Some people might not see your auction notice until > it's over. I get people asking about my post on the mailing list, and I > made that at least three months back. > > How many other mailing lists are these eBay auctions being pushed on? > > Giving a marginal token of appreciation like "free shipping if you mention > the mailing list" might seem like it makes it all better but the cost is > distributed amongst all of the mailing list subscriber while only one > person will benefit directly by the discount. Certainly a basically > non-discount on a unit will not aid the m0n0wall community much, nor do > the devs get another box to play with. > > I don't care for spam. I'm sure that most of the folks on this list have > to deal with spam on a daily basis as part of their jobs. Let's cut it > out here before we have to implement any "best chance" automated spam > filters for our m0n0wall list postings!!! > > Basically, if the unit is going to be posted on the mailing list, it > really shouldn't already be on an Auction site. The discount should > reflect that you're saving fees on an auction site and the hassle of > dealing with an auction. > > I suspect that we all have a general feeling of what hardware is > acceptable for sale/trade on this list. I suspect that we don't have > enough people with hardware to really warrant an active mailing list > dedicated to m0n0wall related hardware sales, but I could be quite > mistaken. > > There are pluses and minuses to this, but the point is that this is a > mailing list primarily for technical discussion, not eBay. > > If a hard stance must be taken, I vote for no sales/solicitation on this > list. > > > > E-Z Ace wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> There are at least ten units out there currently being used by monowall >> users... maybe one of them would like to answer you question regarding >> promiscuous mode and how they perform. I have personally not used these >> under heavy loads. Anybody? >> >> As for network cards, at the very least they take the Phobos P430 quad >> cards >> and the ZNYX ZX370 Quad Fast Ethernet (64 bit) cards. I am sure they >> take >> others but I do not know for sure. >> >> Let me know if you have any other questions. >> >> ez >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Adriel T. Desuatels [mailto:adriel at netragard dot com] >> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 7:16 AM >> To: E-Z Ace >> Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] 1U 733MHz Dual Socket Server For Sale. >> >> >> Great, >> Can you provide me with the technical specifications and costs of >> these >> systems. Specifically, I need to understand what types of network cards >> they >> use and how well they perform in promiscuous mode. >> >> On 2/21/07 1:46 AM, "E-Z Ace" <ez123 at acequality dot net> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I've asked before if selling on this thread is forbidden. Also, a lot >>> of >>> people have benefited from the 1U servers that I've been selling. A few >> of >>> the people who have bought in the past have indicated that this is >>> exactly >>> what they have been looking for. I think these servers are ideal for >>> monowall... hence the reason I'm publishing here. >>> >>> ez >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Adriel T. Desuatels [mailto:adriel at netragard dot com] >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 10:26 PM >>> To: E-Z Ace; m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch >>> Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] 1U 733MHz Dual Socket Server For Sale. >>> >>> >>> Spam??? >>> >>> >>> On 2/21/07 1:03 AM, "E-Z Ace" <ez123 at acequality dot net> wrote: >>> >>>> More details at: >>>> >>>> http://tinyurl.com/3x36sx >>>> >>>> Note that this one has 2 quad cards for a total of 9 interfaces. >>>> >>>> If you are the winning bidder, mention this mailing list and get FREE >>>> SHIPPING to lower 48 states. Or if AL, HI or international, I can give >>> you >>>> $20 shipping credit. >>>> >>>> Look at my other listings for two quad cards... very useful for >>>> monowall. >>>> Also free shipping on those other cards if you mention this thread. >>>> >>>> e-z >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: m0n0wall dash unsubscribe at lists dot m0n0 dot ch >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: m0n0wall dash help at lists dot m0n0 dot ch >>>> >>> -- >>> >>> Regards, >>> Adriel T. Desautels >>> Chief Technology Officer - Netragard, LLC >>> Office: 617-924-4510 || Mobile : 857-636-8882 >>> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/1/118/a45 >>> http://www.netragard.com >>> ------------------------- >>> "We make IT secure." >>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> Regards, >> Adriel T. Desautels >> Chief Technology Officer - Netragard, LLC >> Office: 617-924-4510 || Mobile : 857-636-8882 >> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/1/118/a45 >> http://www.netragard.com >> ------------------------- >> "We make IT secure." >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: m0n0wall dash unsubscribe at lists dot m0n0 dot ch >> For additional commands, e-mail: m0n0wall dash help at lists dot m0n0 dot ch >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: m0n0wall dash unsubscribe at lists dot m0n0 dot ch > For additional commands, e-mail: m0n0wall dash help at lists dot m0n0 dot ch > > |