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 From:  "Alex M" <radiussupport at lrcommunications dot net>
 To:  <john at privateproductivity dot com>, "Monowall Support List" <m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch>
 Subject:  RE: [m0n0wall] Support for hardware project
 Date:  Mon, 5 Mar 2007 23:42:49 -0500
Ok here is the link to gumstix

Honestly they are good for car pc type of projects (I like 400MHz) but 2
problems 1 Price, 2 only one Ethernet port (haven't seen router with one
Ethernet port) and they don't have miniPci for radio (putting radio on GPIO
is no good) they are more robotics type of bords.

As to their cost so here is the brake down: 
MB 200MHz that supports extinctions: 109
Extension for second Ethernet and CF card: 60
Actual CF card: 20
Power Supply: 10
Case 7.50

Total: $206.50

For that price I rather stick with WRAP. This alternative price is too high
and requires extension cards. I don't really like the idea of using this
solution. Sorry.

Thanks for the info though, I'm sure I can use them for my robotics toys

-----Original Message-----
From: John Smith [mailto:john at privateproductivity dot com] 
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 10:19 PM
To: Alex M
Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] Support for hardware project

look for a company selling a product called "gumstix" (sp?) - small and 
cheap for 400Mhz option.  MIght help.
I'd be curious what you end up finding as a system though.


Alex M wrote:
> Good got one person on my side :-)
> I actually want this type of pricing for the project:
> 75 - Board
> 10- Power supply
> 15 - Enclosure
> Total: 100$ USD (could be less is retailers would go w/ lower margin)
> At than same time I want to negotiate w/ manufacturer so retailers would
> form them bulk at $50 per unit sale for 75 => margin 25 or 33% (Netgate
> Ituner what do you think? [Sorry for no names :-P you should know me
> though])I will have to speak to you though so we would agree that you buy
> enough so manufacturer will give us that discount
> Next, why I also want to have mono-AP project is because AP/Bridge and
> router have different purposes, but I can stick with regular mono
> and then push the AP project.   
> As to the part that "krt" wrote... I don't really care about collective
> bargaining on Mini-PCI cards especially low level such as Intel-BG 2200
> too weak for enterprise use... go with 400-800mW cards. Still I don't care
> about them, I only trying to solve 2 issues here reduce the of main
> 2 get alternative to WRAP and Sokries who currently ,shell I say
> to move to another CPU. 
> So do we have more people? Who would be willing to be on the team to
> mono to support WP54 board?
> PS: I changed Title 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lee Sharp [mailto:leesharp at hal dash pc dot org] 
> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 7:34 PM
> Cc: 'Mono Dev List'; Monowall Support List
> Subject: [m0n0wall] Re: [m0n0wall-dev] Add support for hardware button on
> Alex M wrote:
>> 1) As user do you want cheaper hardware and mono as Access Point
> supplement
>> 2) As Developer do you wanna do it (I think we can make financial
>> 3) As Reseller or Distributor do you think we need it and are you willing
> to
>> buy quantity to make the hardware price cheaper?
> Actually had to count...  Right now I have 58 m0n0wall firewalls out 
> that I am supporting.  Because of the high cost for very small systems, 
> they are almost all generic PC hardware. (No WiFi)  If I could get 
> dependable small hardware at around $100, (WiFi could add to this cost) 
> I would jump on it.  As the WiFi support is improving, it makes more 
> sence to have it in the same box.  The 1.2 series WiFi was not worth the 
> trouble.
> 			Lee
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