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On Mar 5, 2007, at 4:49 PM, Alex M wrote: > Good got one person on my side :-) > I actually want this type of pricing for the project: > > 75 - Board > 10- Power supply > 15 - Enclosure > Total: 100$ USD (could be less is retailers would go w/ lower margin) > > At than same time I want to negotiate w/ manufacturer so retailers > would buy > form them bulk at $50 per unit sale for 75 => margin 25 or 33% > (Netgate and > Ituner what do you think? [Sorry for no names :-P you should know me > though])I will have to speak to you though so we would agree that > you buy > enough so manufacturer will give us that discount I'd answer, but ... that would be commercial, and this is a non- commercial list. OK, the straight answer: we were already talking to them. (which is why I pointed out that Valemont is not a great source for the board.0 > Next, why I also want to have mono-AP project is because AP/Bridge and > router have different purposes, but I can stick with regular mono > conversion > and then push the AP project. > > As to the part that "krt" wrote... I don't really care about > collective > bargaining on Mini-PCI cards especially low level such as Intel-BG > 2200 they > too weak for enterprise use... go with 400-800mW cards. 800mW cards? Nobody makes one of those in "commercial" quantities. (There may be some in a lab somewhere.) If you retort with "ubiquiti" I will openly laugh. (You've been warned.) We've just invested a lot of time (and sat on several hundred boards while the FreeBSD developers got support in -CURRENT and then MFC-ed into 6.2, after supplying them with a set of zero-margin boards, so quite a bit of money) getting support for the ixp42x Xscale going. Gateworks builds a single miniPCI board that is approximately 'right' for a single-radio AP, so thats the current strategy. Until I get that shipping, I'm not going to invest much more than 'talk' in getting the WP54 running. You may wish to take a serious look at how much of m0n0wall you're going to be able to squeeze into that 4MB flash on the WP54, and how well FreeBSD is going to run in 16MB of memory. Oh sure, you can put more dram on the board, but it won't cost $75 then. Jim |