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 From:  "Jurgen van Vliet" <jurgenvv at xs4all dot nl>
 To:  "'m0n0wall'" <m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch>
 Subject:  RE: [m0n0wall] WRAP is out, ALIX is in... Bye bye to VLAN support?
 Date:  Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:53:50 +0100
Ok, im looking a bit pale now and im drinking coffee with a shaking hand.

That the alix boards nics do not support vlan tagging on freebsd 6 is quite
a shock for me. I just got my test alix board yesterday and didn't go the
vlan way yet.
Lucky I got a wrap stock still, but this will give me a lot of problems in
the future if vlans is not possible.

The big question will for me is will m0n0 go to freebsd 7 and in what
timeframe. Considering the fact that the freebsd 6 branche is not even in
stabile ..  
What is the ETA on freebsd 7 and will m0n0wall switch to it when it comes
out or will m0n0wall stay on freebsd 6 for a while ?



-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Chris Buechler [mailto:cbuechler at gmail dot com] 
Verzonden: donderdag 22 november 2007 2:50
CC: m0n0wall
Onderwerp: Re: [m0n0wall] WRAP is out, ALIX is in... Bye bye to VLAN

On Nov 21, 2007 7:02 PM, Michael Riglin <Michael dot Riglin at shaw dot ca> wrote:
> This suggestion may be way out to left field, but as your LAN requires
> capabilities and you already have the spare WRAP, it may be an option to
> convert your old WRAP into a Vyatta router (which the community edition is
> free and fully supports the options you need) which can then be placed in
> front of your new ALIX m0n0wall. Then, when 7.0 is released, the WRAP can
> once again be decommissioned and the VLAN routing chores moved to your

If you're going to do that though, you might as well run m0n0wall on
the WRAP (since Bill is already familiar with it, and assuming he's
not familiar with Vyatta). It supports VLANs no problem.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Rae [mailto:paul at impacttrainingsolutions dot co dot uk]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 8:14 AM
> To: m0n0wall
> Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] WRAP is out, ALIX is in... Bye bye to VLAN
> The device is just as capable, its just the driver support for the vr
> interface in the 6.2 branch currently does not support vlan tagging.
> The hardware is no less capable, it is just the software support for these
> features is currently not available in the 6.2 branch.
> That's not to say they won't be backported once they are available in the
> 7.0 release, however I don't think 7.0 proper is due out until the end of
> the year.
> Short term solutions:
> If you need VLAN support - add an extra nic to the board that supports
> VLAN's (assuming you have the space)
> If you don't need VLAN support right now - just leave it, at some point in
> the future there will be a software update that will allow this.

The above is spot on correct. I don't think we'll see the vr(4)
changes in 6.3, possibly only in 7.x versions.


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