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 From:  "William F. Dudley Jr." <wfdudley at gmail dot com>
 To:  m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
 Subject:  Re: [m0n0wall] Tough sell to my boss
 Date:  Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:33:40 -0500
This may count as topic hijacking, but . . .

I certainly wouldn't recommend trying to build a production router
using the Alix
2C3 board.  I and others have had mysterious failures (the ethernet ports just
stop working) and I have not seen a solution.

I'd dearly love to be using my Alix 2C3 board with m0n0wall, but the
flaky hardware
makes it unusable, and I feel I've thrown away a couple hundred bucks.
 So I keep
using an ancient P75 running LRP ("linux router project") that refuses to die.

If anybody has heard of a fix to the flaky Alix boards I'd love to
hear about it.


On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Chris Buechler <cbuechler at gmail dot com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Peter Pauly <ppauly at gmail dot com> wrote:
>> My boss is the type of person who would rather pay more (loads more)
>> for a Cisco ASA because paid support can be found for it and there are
>> "lots of people who know how to support it". I need to counter these
>> arguments in order to implement m0n0wall.
>> 1. Are there any companies in the USA supporting m0n0wall (paid support)?
> Yes, under pfSense support subscriptions we also support m0n0wall.
> https://portal.pfsense.org
> and we send money to Manuel for any m0n0wall support sold. The support
> initially started off on a project-neutral site for pfSense and
> m0n0wall both, but the support demand has been almost exclusively for
> pfSense to date.
> The site doesn't mention m0n0wall support (yet, lack of time), but
> we're the best qualified option available for m0n0wall commercial
> support (and actually the only one I know of, aside from a number of
> consulting companies who provide support for their local/regional
> customer bases).
> m0n0wall isn't some esoteric system that requires specialized
> knowledge to run. Anyone who can admin a commercial grade firewall
> through a web interface can admin a m0n0wall.
>> 2. What major (well known) companies or organizations (Universities,
>> etc) are using m0n0wall in production?
> Wow, a lot... but specifics... my memory of who runs m0n0 and who runs
> pfSense is running together. Most of the big ones tend to use pfSense
> because they need redundancy that CARP provides, and/or need a larger
> state table but don't want to recompile the kernel. Three I know of
> offhand that are publicly known are parts of the University of Texas,
> Purdue, and one of the datacenters that hosts part of foxnews.com, all
> running pfSense. There are several state government agencies across
> the US using it also, and a few Fortune 500 companies, as well as
> countless small to medium businesses. I can't specify any of those as
> that isn't public information, the ones I identified you could find
> yourself searching mailing list and forum archives.
> I personally have m0n0wall deployed in several dozen small businesses
> and it just works, and people love it. It's a proven solution.
> -Chris
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