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 From:  List Receiver <listreceiver at mastermindpro dot com>
 To:  "William F. Dudley Jr." <wfdudley at gmail dot com>, "m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch" <m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch>
 Subject:  RE: [m0n0wall] Tough sell to my boss
 Date:  Mon, 12 Jan 2009 09:52:29 -0800
I've encountered the same problem on two Alix boards at different sites recently.  Luckily, in both
cases, I purchased the three port board and was only using two ports.  I'm not thrilled with the
prospect of dying ports on a remote device that is production-critical.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: William F. Dudley Jr. [mailto:wfdudley at gmail dot com]
> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 9:34 AM
> To: m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
> Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] Tough sell to my boss
>
> This may count as topic hijacking, but . . .
>
> I certainly wouldn't recommend trying to build a production router
> using the Alix
> 2C3 board.  I and others have had mysterious failures (the ethernet
> ports just
> stop working) and I have not seen a solution.
>
> I'd dearly love to be using my Alix 2C3 board with m0n0wall, but the
> flaky hardware
> makes it unusable, and I feel I've thrown away a couple hundred bucks.
>  So I keep
> using an ancient P75 running LRP ("linux router project") that refuses
> to die.
>
> If anybody has heard of a fix to the flaky Alix boards I'd love to
> hear about it.
>
> Bill
>
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Chris Buechler <cbuechler at gmail dot com>
> wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Peter Pauly <ppauly at gmail dot com>
> wrote:
> >> My boss is the type of person who would rather pay more (loads more)
> >> for a Cisco ASA because paid support can be found for it and there
> are
> >> "lots of people who know how to support it". I need to counter these
> >> arguments in order to implement m0n0wall.
> >>
> >> 1. Are there any companies in the USA supporting m0n0wall (paid
> support)?
> >>
> >
> > Yes, under pfSense support subscriptions we also support m0n0wall.
> > https://portal.pfsense.org
> >
> > and we send money to Manuel for any m0n0wall support sold. The
> support
> > initially started off on a project-neutral site for pfSense and
> > m0n0wall both, but the support demand has been almost exclusively for
> > pfSense to date.
> >
> > The site doesn't mention m0n0wall support (yet, lack of time), but
> > we're the best qualified option available for m0n0wall commercial
> > support (and actually the only one I know of, aside from a number of
> > consulting companies who provide support for their local/regional
> > customer bases).
> >
> > m0n0wall isn't some esoteric system that requires specialized
> > knowledge to run. Anyone who can admin a commercial grade firewall
> > through a web interface can admin a m0n0wall.
> >
> >
> >> 2. What major (well known) companies or organizations (Universities,
> >> etc) are using m0n0wall in production?
> >>
> >
> > Wow, a lot... but specifics... my memory of who runs m0n0 and who
> runs
> > pfSense is running together. Most of the big ones tend to use pfSense
> > because they need redundancy that CARP provides, and/or need a larger
> > state table but don't want to recompile the kernel. Three I know of
> > offhand that are publicly known are parts of the University of Texas,
> > Purdue, and one of the datacenters that hosts part of foxnews.com,
> all
> > running pfSense. There are several state government agencies across
> > the US using it also, and a few Fortune 500 companies, as well as
> > countless small to medium businesses. I can't specify any of those as
> > that isn't public information, the ones I identified you could find
> > yourself searching mailing list and forum archives.
> >
> > I personally have m0n0wall deployed in several dozen small businesses
> > and it just works, and people love it. It's a proven solution.
> >
> > -Chris
> >
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