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 From:  "William F. Dudley Jr." <wfdudley at gmail dot com>
 To:  "Sterling Windmill" <sterling dot windmill at custdata dot com>, m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
 Subject:  Re: [m0n0wall] Tough sell to my boss
 Date:  Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:50:03 -0500
How does one go about finding what bios us in use, considering there
is no keyboard and no

Why would the bios affect this, anyway?  Isn't the ethernet port
driver part of FreeBSD?


On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Sterling Windmill
<sterling dot windmill at custdata dot com> wrote:
> I use an alix2c3 with m0n0wall in production and have had no such issues. Are you using the latest
v0.99h bios?
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William F. Dudley Jr." <wfdudley at gmail dot com>
> To: m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 12:33:40 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] Tough sell to my boss
> This may count as topic hijacking, but . . .
> I certainly wouldn't recommend trying to build a production router
> using the Alix
> 2C3 board. I and others have had mysterious failures (the ethernet ports just
> stop working) and I have not seen a solution.
> I'd dearly love to be using my Alix 2C3 board with m0n0wall, but the
> flaky hardware
> makes it unusable, and I feel I've thrown away a couple hundred bucks.
> So I keep
> using an ancient P75 running LRP ("linux router project") that refuses to die.
> If anybody has heard of a fix to the flaky Alix boards I'd love to
> hear about it.
> Bill
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Chris Buechler <cbuechler at gmail dot com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Peter Pauly <ppauly at gmail dot com> wrote:
>>> My boss is the type of person who would rather pay more (loads more)
>>> for a Cisco ASA because paid support can be found for it and there are
>>> "lots of people who know how to support it". I need to counter these
>>> arguments in order to implement m0n0wall.
>>> 1. Are there any companies in the USA supporting m0n0wall (paid support)?
>> Yes, under pfSense support subscriptions we also support m0n0wall.
>> https://portal.pfsense.org
>> and we send money to Manuel for any m0n0wall support sold. The support
>> initially started off on a project-neutral site for pfSense and
>> m0n0wall both, but the support demand has been almost exclusively for
>> pfSense to date.
>> The site doesn't mention m0n0wall support (yet, lack of time), but
>> we're the best qualified option available for m0n0wall commercial
>> support (and actually the only one I know of, aside from a number of
>> consulting companies who provide support for their local/regional
>> customer bases).
>> m0n0wall isn't some esoteric system that requires specialized
>> knowledge to run. Anyone who can admin a commercial grade firewall
>> through a web interface can admin a m0n0wall.
>>> 2. What major (well known) companies or organizations (Universities,
>>> etc) are using m0n0wall in production?
>> Wow, a lot... but specifics... my memory of who runs m0n0 and who runs
>> pfSense is running together. Most of the big ones tend to use pfSense
>> because they need redundancy that CARP provides, and/or need a larger
>> state table but don't want to recompile the kernel. Three I know of
>> offhand that are publicly known are parts of the University of Texas,
>> Purdue, and one of the datacenters that hosts part of foxnews.com, all
>> running pfSense. There are several state government agencies across
>> the US using it also, and a few Fortune 500 companies, as well as
>> countless small to medium businesses. I can't specify any of those as
>> that isn't public information, the ones I identified you could find
>> yourself searching mailing list and forum archives.
>> I personally have m0n0wall deployed in several dozen small businesses
>> and it just works, and people love it. It's a proven solution.
>> -Chris
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