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 From:  "Jonathan Merrill" <milpo2717 at msn dot com>
 To:  <Hilton at QuarkAV dot com>, <m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch>
 Subject:  RE: [m0n0wall] FW Rules to allow MSN / windows Messenger Voice
 Date:  Fri, 27 Feb 2004 20:19:39 -0500
Hello Travis -

To keep it simple, if the option of UpnP existed, I believe that would
accomplish the mission for most folks using MS IM.  In my shop, we use it as
much as possible to eliminate long distance phone bills. . . 

Just a suggestion . . 

Thank you,

Jonathan Merrill
CCA, MCP, Net+

-----Original Message-----
From: Hilton Travis [mailto:Hilton at QuarkAV dot com] 
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 6:03 PM
To: m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
Subject: RE: [m0n0wall] FW Rules to allow MSN / windows Messenger Voice

Hi Jonathon,

First, your quoting is in desperate need of addressing - the quoted text is
not any different from your new text, and there should be some
differentiation for clarity.

Now, as for UPnP, I'm all for it.  Unfortunately, UPnP is a Microsoft
invention, but it makes like in small businesses (and homes) much easier.
I'm not so concerned about passing MSN Voice/Video out using it, but that is
a thing that a lot of people want to do.

The reason I'd like to see UPnP implemented is because many businesses run a
Windows-based network, with Windows Server and ISA Server.  ISA Server can
configure hardware firewalls (or software based standalone
firewalls) if these devices have implemented UPnP.  Especially for the SMB
space, this is quite useful as most SMBs don't have tech staff on hand to be
able to manually open and close firewall ports as needed/required.  UPnP
implementation in m0n0wall would work NICELY with MS ISA Server in this
respect, and therefore open m0n0wall up to a whole new world of users.


On Sat, 2004-02-28 at 03:20, Jonathan Merrill wrote:
> Could an Universal Plug and Play option be enabled on the firewall to 
> allow these ports to open dynamically for those who need it?
> I'd recommend an approach where the if enabled, all traffic should be 
> logged. . .
> ___________________________________
> Jonathan Merrill
> CCA, MCP, Net+
> www.gomerrill.com
> ___________________________________
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dean Dorman [mailto:dmdorman at email dot com]
> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 8:05 PM
> To: m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
> Subject: [m0n0wall] FW Rules to allow MSN / windows Messenger Voice
>   Been searching the forum and Googling for an answer but found none
>   yet.  I need to get m0n0wall v1.0 to permit voice chat thru windows 
> messenger
>   4.7 or 5.0.  I set up some NAT and fw rules to allow certain ports:
>         UDP     *       *     2001 - 2120     NAT IM
> transfer
>         TCP/UDP         *       *     6901    NAT IM
>         UDP     *       *     6801    NAT IM Voice
>         TCP     *       *     6891 - 6895     NAT IM
> Transfer
>         UDP     *       *     5000    NAT IM UPnP
>         TCP     *       *     3389    NAT IM
>         TCP     *       *     1603    NAT IM
>   Now, on my old Coyote Linux fw using iptables, this seemed to work
>   on occaision. Figured FreeBSD and ipfilter is superior to iptables
>   so it should be easier to accomplish.  Probably is but I need
>   someone to point out the answer to me.  Please help.



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