Hi Mark,

Actually, approximately 50% of the released SmoothWall patches have been
patches to fix broken patches that weren't tested properly before being
unleashed on the public.  Check the release notes and you'll see what I
mean.

Aside from this, SmoothWall/IPCop have significant differences to
m0n0wall in their target market.  How many Tel$tra BigPond Cable users -
for example - can use m0n0wall (none) versus SmoothWall (all)?  And this
is an Ethernet connection.  I'll admit that this is one thing I'm
seriously considering adding to m0n0wall myself, somehow, when I get the
time to look at the m0n0c0de a bit m0re.

Both of these products have ther place.  As do the other products out
there (except anything with a "Linksys" sticker on it).  I use and
recommend both m0n0wall and SmoothWall where appropriate.  And Cisco
boxes, and Checkpoint solutions, etc.  :)

Regards,
HiltonT

On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 23:00, Mark Spieth wrote:
> I agree, I like IDS however IDS really should be done on a separate box
> as well as squid 1/2 the smoothwall/IPCOP patches are do to addon
> software they put on their firewalls.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Donald Deacon [mailto:donald at 501 dot co dot za] 
> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 7:57 AM
> To: m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
> Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] Comparative Products to M0n0wall
> 
> I agree! M0n0wall has some really cool features like creating aliases of
> Networks/Host names. This makes changes quick and easy, especially to
> Rules
> and Nat setups. I use a CDROM based PC. No hard drive to worry about
> crashing also less power usage. If there are any problems, you reboot!I
> looked at Smoothwall and besides IDS there was nothing that benefited
> us!
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mark Spieth" <mspieth at neod dot net>
> To: <m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch>
> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 12:49 PM
> Subject: RE: [m0n0wall] Comparative Products to M0n0wall
> 
> 
> I understand your dilemma, however what other products offer is
> irrelevant, the real issue is does monowall fulfill your security needs
> for the price you pay for it. There are other free products out there
> such as IPcop for a prebuilt system or shorewall if you want to build
> your own. The added security of the FreeBSD based system and ease of
> upgrade especially if you are running a standard PC with a CDROM is what
> is important.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Prasetya [mailto:andyprasetya at netscape dot net]
> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 1:48 AM
> To: m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
> Subject: [m0n0wall] Comparative Products to M0n0wall
> 
> Dear M0n0wall Community,
> Recently, my supervisor asked me to develop a comparative
> chart/information about M0n0wall and other "peer-class/quality"
> products. Does anybody can help me to find some few (at least 3 or 4
> products) which can be compared to a M0n0wall box, in terms of their
> features?
> 
> Thank you very much.
> andyprasetya at netscape dot net
> 
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