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 From:  "Quark AV - Hilton Travis" <Hilton at QuarkAV dot com>
 To:  <m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch>
 Subject:  RE: [m0n0wall] suggestion
 Date:  Thu, 3 Jun 2004 09:57:19 +1000
Hi Uli,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Uli Wachowitz [mailto:uli at wach dash o dash witz dot de] 
> Sent: Wednesday, 2 June 2004 19:13
> To: m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
> Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] suggestion
> 2004-06-02 18:45, Andrew Eglington wrote:
> > Network traffic logger that:
> > - given a start and end date will show the *total* amount of data 
> > in/out.
> Please don't even think about adding such (doubtless nice) 
> function. If you need something like that, use external 
> tools. Same goes for the traffic graph (IMHO). 
> You can do countless things with mrtg/mrtgfe and similar tools. 
> My mantra was, is and will always be: "A firewall is a 
> firewall is a firewall!"
> Nothing more, nothing less. 
> And yes, I know, things like that have been discussed 
> countless times before.

I agree totally with your sentiments.  I personally think that a firewall
should be a firewall should be a firewall, but there are many people who
have a single box, and it needs to perform ancillary functionality, such as
caching, traffic graphing, traffic/bandwidth management and such.  If there
is a plugin interface, which there is, then it is up to the user which
plugins they choose to use.

I cannot see anything wrong with someone writing a traffic graphing plugin
that will log, store, and show traffic for individual internal IPs, or the
box as a whole.  I personally won't use it, nor do I need it.  Others may.

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