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 From:  Fred Wright <fw at well dot com>
 To:  m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
 Subject:  RE: [m0n0wall] No Link-up Detected
 Date:  Sat, 5 Jun 2004 14:30:59 -0700 (PDT)
On Thu, 3 Jun 2004, Anthony Brohan wrote:
> What you are probably experiencing is that you are using a loopback cable or 
> a non-loopback cable depending on your configuration.

The term you want is "crossover", not "loopback".  A loopback cable
connects TX to RX on the *same* port for test purposes.

>     Try with diffrent cables and check back with us, Loopbacks are normally 
> yellow.

Both types are available in a variety of colors.  Any "standard" relating
to color is site-specific.

On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 walter at computerguru dash llc dot com wrote:

> you need a crossover cable from the modem to the monowall wan side.

Right name, wrong info. :-)

Most cable and DSL modems are wired MDI-X (i.e. "hub/switch-like"), in
order to "simplify" connecting a PC.  Thus, you usually want a
straight-through cable.

Getting that part wrong is a really low-level problem that should be
obvious from the lack of "link status" indicators.  Though for anything
"computer-like" it's usually necessary for the software to bring up the
NIC before the link will operate.

					Fred Wright