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 From:  "Quark IT - Hilton Travis" <hilton at quarkit dot com dot au>
 To:  <m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch>
 Subject:  RE: [m0n0wall] m0n0-ovpn ver 0.1
 Date:  Sun, 4 Jul 2004 09:48:27 +1000
Hi Peter,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Curran [mailto:peter at closeconsultants dot com] 
> Sent: Sunday, 4 July 2004 09:35
> To: Quark IT - Hilton Travis
> Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] m0n0-ovpn ver 0.1
> On Saturday 03 July 2004 21:10, Quark IT - Hilton Travis wrote:
> > Hi Peter,
> >
> > Shouldn't a module just be able to be uploaded to a running 
> > m0n0wall system in a similar way to a new firmware?  Making 
> > a module that needs to have the original image edited and 
> > the "module" code included is more like hacking the base
> > than adding a module to me.
> >
> Well of course you can upload it to a running system!!!  Just 
> that most people don't really want to do that every time it boots.

That's what a module system is to me - a system that lets you load a
module onto the working system, and have it there when you reboot.  If
that's not how the m0n0wall module system works, then methinks it needs
a bit more work.

> Unless you know some clever way of inserting the goodies into 
> the mfsroot.gz sitting on the CF (that isn't going to destroy 
> your system if it goes wrong)?

I'd have thought that the module system had a way to load a module into
the working m0n0wall install on a permanent basis - preferable with a
"module removal" option as well - so a module being tested/evaluated can
be removed/updated as needed.

> > I'm off for a week of babysitting my sister's kids (school 
> > holidays) so I'll be pretty much unable to test anything. 
> > And as I have a net4501 and no other FreeBSD system, it 
> > looks like your module cannot be uploaded to the net4501 
> > to test anyway - I don't want to hack a working m0n0wall 
> > base to add a module.
> >
> If you want to upload and test, then it is dead easy - there 
> are only 5 or 6 files.  Perhaps I should write a little 
> script so that you could just upload a tar file and have it 
> unpacked into the right place.  I will think about it 
> overnight, but it still doesn't help you with a permament 
> change.

It would make it easier for people to evaluate and test your module,
that's for sure.  As I mentioned, I'd have thunk that the module
framework would take care of loading and unloading modules from the base
system, not have them disappear upon a reboot.

> > Good luck - I hope this works out for you and those looking 
> > at OpenVPN.
> >
> Thanks for the feedback.
> Peter

NP - without it, where would we all be?



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