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I must say that I found the RCD in-line breakers in our fuse box to be a pretty effective barrier :-) But, of course, the domestic power distribution in the UK is not the same as in many other countries so that would have an effect. I think encyrption is intriguing as a solution to the confidentiality issues, but as they are using DES on the Netgear stuff I assume that you have to pre-configure all the devices with a shared key. As this tends to be derived from a passord it could be relatively easy to attack. Peter On Tuesday 06 July 2004 14:38, Robert Staph wrote: > Thats interesting information. I never really bothered to look carefully > at powerline ethernet equipment, no interest I guess. > > I also wonder if one of those filters that X10 sells (to keep peoples X10 > powerline signals from turning your stuff on and off) would work to at > least limit but hopefully block the powerline ethernet signals? I know X10 > works in an entirely different way, but maybe.... > > If the powerline ethernet is just like powerline broadband in the way it > functions (RF injection I believe), then there is a chance one the > available types of filters that the power company is supposed to provide if > their broadband signal causes harmful interference might work too. > > > -Rob > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ryan Giobbi" <rgiobbi at zoominternet dot net> > To: "Peter Curran" <peter at closeconsultants dot com> > Cc: "Andrew Eglington" <aeglington at hotmail dot com>; <m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch> > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 9:25 AM > Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] recommended wireless? > > > There is a fly in the powerline ethernet transceiver though- if you are > > not on your own converter/sub station (those cylinder-like things that > > hang on the poles) your signal can be picked up by your neighbors if > > they also have a powerline adapter. > > > > A VPN connection to the router, or if you are only using behind a > > converter/substation (such as a rural home), solves this problem. > > Netgear uses weak (56 bit DES) encryption built in. In practice, the DES > > encryption should be good enough since no one will know you are using > > them. > > > The netgear powerline ethernet adapter will support at least 16 units (1 > > for the router, 15 for the clients), so you could make your entire > > network using them. > > > > Peter Curran wrote: > > >Yes - thats the kind of thing I was thinking of. The one you show does > > 14mbs > > > >- I saw a couple the other day only doing only 1.5Mbps so I guess there > > is a > > > >lot of variation. I note that Andrew is in Oz, so there is probably a > > local > > > >version that works with their wiring codes (which are probably similar > > > to > > the > > > >UK). > > > > > >The one I am using is a no-name taiwanese job that runs at 10 Mbps, but > > is > > > >clearly for the UK 220-240V/50Hz environment. Actually, I have been > > using it > > > >for a while and it is pretty good but bulky (unlike the netgear you > > linked > > > >to). > > > > > >Peter > > > > > >On Tuesday 06 July 2004 13:09, Ryan Giobbi wrote: > > >>Here is an example of one: > > >>http://www.netgear.com/products/details/XE102.php?view=hm > > >> > > >>Other equipment vendors make them also. > > >> > > >>Peter Curran wrote: > > >>>Andrew > > >>> > > >>>As an alternative, have you considered an 'Ethernet-over-Power' > > solution. > > > >>>There seems to be quite a few of these around at the moment and the > > >>> one > > I > > > >>>have works OK, provided you don't try and go through a RCD circuit > > breaker > > > >>>or similar. > > >>> > > >>>The main issue is that they generally give around 2-5Mbps (but if you > > are > > > >>>just basically trying to get to the Internet you probably wouldn't > > notice > > > >>>this). > > >>> > > >>>Cheers > > >>> > > >>>Peter > > >>> > > >>>On Tuesday 06 July 2004 08:24, Andrew Eglington wrote: > > >>>>I need to get rid of a length of unsightly network cable (strung > > >>>> along the roof) running from a router to my m0n0 box, and was > > >>>> thinking of using something wireless. > > >>>>(Mainly because, I'm guessing, professional installation of 15m of > > >>>>twisted pair and a couple of wall sockets will probably cost me about > > >>>>$200.... right?) > > >>>> > > >>>>Therefore I have been looking through the various available wireless > > >>>>router/NIC available in .au > > >>>>and then following links to reviews of these products. > > >>>> > > >>>>After reading various reviews on [name removed] I came to the > > following > > > >>>>conclusions: > > >>>>a) that their editors ratings are not based on the actual products > > >>>>performance. > > >>>>b) that 90% of the people who buy these products and then review them > > on > > > >>>>the site, are generally stupid, and largely illiterate. > > >>>>c) I don't think i can believe anything I see on that site, and now > > doubt > > > >>>>any review's authenticity. > > >>>> > > >>>>So now I ask those who actually use such devices for their learned > > >>>>opinions (thats you people BTW)... > > >>>>What is a good wireless solution? Primarily just to replace a 15-20m > > >>>>length of CAT5. > > >>>>..or should I just get a cable and wall sockets installed? > > >>>> > > >>>>_________________________________________________________________ > > >>>>Find love today with ninemsn personals. 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