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I think powerline ethernet would be the perfect solution for a gaming console, or other such device, where privacy isn't a real concern. I guess a VPN would also work for more private data. Peter Curran wrote: >I must say that I found the RCD in-line breakers in our fuse box to be a >pretty effective barrier :-) > >But, of course, the domestic power distribution in the UK is not the same as >in many other countries so that would have an effect. > >I think encyrption is intriguing as a solution to the confidentiality issues, >but as they are using DES on the Netgear stuff I assume that you have to >pre-configure all the devices with a shared key. As this tends to be derived >from a passord it could be relatively easy to attack. > >Peter > >On Tuesday 06 July 2004 14:38, Robert Staph wrote: > > >>Thats interesting information. I never really bothered to look carefully >>at powerline ethernet equipment, no interest I guess. >> >>I also wonder if one of those filters that X10 sells (to keep peoples X10 >>powerline signals from turning your stuff on and off) would work to at >>least limit but hopefully block the powerline ethernet signals? I know X10 >>works in an entirely different way, but maybe.... >> >>If the powerline ethernet is just like powerline broadband in the way it >>functions (RF injection I believe), then there is a chance one the >>available types of filters that the power company is supposed to provide if >>their broadband signal causes harmful interference might work too. >> >> >>-Rob >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Ryan Giobbi" <rgiobbi at zoominternet dot net> >>To: "Peter Curran" <peter at closeconsultants dot com> >>Cc: "Andrew Eglington" <aeglington at hotmail dot com>; <m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch> >>Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 9:25 AM >>Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] recommended wireless? >> >> >> >>>There is a fly in the powerline ethernet transceiver though- if you are >>>not on your own converter/sub station (those cylinder-like things that >>>hang on the poles) your signal can be picked up by your neighbors if >>>they also have a powerline adapter. >>> >>>A VPN connection to the router, or if you are only using behind a >>>converter/substation (such as a rural home), solves this problem. >>>Netgear uses weak (56 bit DES) encryption built in. In practice, the DES >>>encryption should be good enough since no one will know you are using >>> >>> >>them. >> >> >> >>>The netgear powerline ethernet adapter will support at least 16 units (1 >>>for the router, 15 for the clients), so you could make your entire >>>network using them. >>> >>>Peter Curran wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Yes - thats the kind of thing I was thinking of. The one you show does >>>> >>>> >>14mbs >> >> >> >>>>- I saw a couple the other day only doing only 1.5Mbps so I guess there >>>> >>>> >>is a >> >> >> >>>>lot of variation. I note that Andrew is in Oz, so there is probably a >>>> >>>> >>local >> >> >> >>>>version that works with their wiring codes (which are probably similar >>>>to >>>> >>>> >>the >> >> >> >>>>UK). >>>> >>>>The one I am using is a no-name taiwanese job that runs at 10 Mbps, but >>>> >>>> >>is >> >> >> >>>>clearly for the UK 220-240V/50Hz environment. Actually, I have been >>>> >>>> >>using it >> >> >> >>>>for a while and it is pretty good but bulky (unlike the netgear you >>>> >>>> >>linked >> >> >> >>>>to). >>>> >>>>Peter >>>> >>>>On Tuesday 06 July 2004 13:09, Ryan Giobbi wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Here is an example of one: >>>>>http://www.netgear.com/products/details/XE102.php?view=hm >>>>> >>>>>Other equipment vendors make them also. >>>>> >>>>>Peter Curran wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Andrew >>>>>> >>>>>>As an alternative, have you considered an 'Ethernet-over-Power' >>>>>> >>>>>> >>solution. >> >> >> >>>>>>There seems to be quite a few of these around at the moment and the >>>>>>one >>>>>> >>>>>> >>I >> >> >> >>>>>>have works OK, provided you don't try and go through a RCD circuit >>>>>> >>>>>> >>breaker >> >> >> >>>>>>or similar. >>>>>> >>>>>>The main issue is that they generally give around 2-5Mbps (but if you >>>>>> >>>>>> >>are >> >> >> >>>>>>just basically trying to get to the Internet you probably wouldn't >>>>>> >>>>>> >>notice >> >> >> >>>>>>this). >>>>>> >>>>>>Cheers >>>>>> >>>>>>Peter >>>>>> >>>>>>On Tuesday 06 July 2004 08:24, Andrew Eglington wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>I need to get rid of a length of unsightly network cable (strung >>>>>>>along the roof) running from a router to my m0n0 box, and was >>>>>>>thinking of using something wireless. >>>>>>>(Mainly because, I'm guessing, professional installation of 15m of >>>>>>>twisted pair and a couple of wall sockets will probably cost me about >>>>>>>$200.... right?) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Therefore I have been looking through the various available wireless >>>>>>>router/NIC available in .au >>>>>>>and then following links to reviews of these products. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>After reading various reviews on [name removed] I came to the >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>following >> >> >> >>>>>>>conclusions: >>>>>>>a) that their editors ratings are not based on the actual products >>>>>>>performance. >>>>>>>b) that 90% of the people who buy these products and then review them >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>on >> >> >> >>>>>>>the site, are generally stupid, and largely illiterate. >>>>>>>c) I don't think i can believe anything I see on that site, and now >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>doubt >> >> >> >>>>>>>any review's authenticity. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>So now I ask those who actually use such devices for their learned >>>>>>>opinions (thats you people BTW)... >>>>>>>What is a good wireless solution? Primarily just to replace a 15-20m >>>>>>>length of CAT5. >>>>>>>..or should I just get a cable and wall sockets installed? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>_________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>Find love today with ninemsn personals. 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