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 From:  "Robert Staph" <rstaph at digitalimpreza dot com>
 To:  <m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch>
 Subject:  Re: [m0n0wall] RE: VoIP Vonage Setup Help (IT'S ALIVE)
 Date:  Sun, 4 Jul 2004 20:24:26 -0400
Its starting to sound like I did a bad thing hooking up the vonage device
before my m0n0wall.  Tell me again why it isn't good to do it the way vonage
recommends?

-Rob

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mitch (WebCob)" <mitch at webcob dot com>
To: "Robert Staph" <rstaph at digitalimpreza dot com>; "John Voigt"
<megeek at wyndhamhills dot com>; <m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch>
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 6:39 PM
Subject: RE: [m0n0wall] RE: VoIP Vonage Setup Help (IT'S ALIVE)


> Not to drag it too far off topic here, but EVERYONE I've ever talked to in
> my region (Canada, BC) has had more difficulty with Cable than with other
> connections (ADSL / T1 / ISDN / etc.) due to the bussed nature of the
> service... The underlying topology is often like old thinnet ethernet... a
> common signal shared over many users... so even if YOU set up a shaper,
> doesn't mean the upstream provider respects it, and when your traffic is
in
> contention with other traffic, spikes in latency can cause the problems
you
> are seeing - just because they promise 128k/256k doesn't mean they
> consistantly deliver.
>
> You MIGHT find some relief by assuming (for purposes of your rules that
your
> pipe is 25% smaller than it is...
>
> Just a thought - would like to hear the results.
>
> Also, as a thought, is there anywhere people are archiving rules for
things
> like this (Vonage, Net2Phone, Quake, etc. etc.) - if not, maybe we should
> start a wiki for it?
>
> m/
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert Staph [mailto:rstaph at digitalimpreza dot com]
> > Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 1:22 PM
> > To: John Voigt; m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
> > Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] RE: VoIP Vonage Setup Help (IT'S ALIVE)
> >
> >
> > You probably have a bigger connection than I do then.  128k/256k is all
I
> > get from the cable company (but it only costs me $10/month).  Other
people
> > on connections this size experience similar problems.  And yes my
> > shaper is
> > configured perfectly, so that was not the problem.
> >
> > -Rob
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Voigt" <megeek at wyndhamhills dot com>
> > To: "Robert Staph" <rstaph at digitalimpreza dot com>; <m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 11:48 AM
> > Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] RE: VoIP Vonage Setup Help (IT'S ALIVE)
> >
> >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Robert Staph" <rstaph at digitalimpreza dot com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 10:49 AM
> > >
> > >
> > > > I must state that you will be much happier with your vonage service
if
> > you
> > > > connect it directly to your cable modem.  Or you'll need to
> > be sure that
> > > you
> > > > never download or upload while your on the vonage phone.  I know
this
> > from
> > > > experience.
> > > >
> > > Well, I have a different experience - I have mine behind the
> > monowall box
> > > and it's working just dandy with the traffic shaper.  Perhaps
> > your shaper
> > > configuration was not properly loaded?
> > >
> > > By the way, I have a ReplayTV unit on my network that is sending shows
a
> > lot
> > > of the time so my network is almost always saturated (the WAN
> > side) and I
> > > have absolutely no problems with VOIP calls.  I have the RTV
> > data in a low
> > > priority queue and my regular browsing also works just fine.
> > >
> > > Setup (pardon the crappy ascii graphics):
> > >
> > > \/  <---- antenna for internal Engenius card AP (bridged with LAN)
> > >  |
> > > monowall (Soekris)--cable modem
> > >  |
> > > switch
> > >  | | |--Vonage VOIP  (Queue weight 100)
> > >  | |------Rest of home network (Queue weight 50)
> > >  |---ReplayTV (Queue weight 1)
> > >
> > > Surely there are others successfully using the traffic shaper with
VOIP.
> > >
> > > John Voigt, President
> > >
> > > Reston Wireless, LLC
> > > High speed internet service
> > > no smoke, no mirrors, no wires (tm)
> > > http://www.reston-wireless.net/
> > >
> > >
> >
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