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 From:  "vwbug" <vwbug at sc dot rr dot com>
 To:  <m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch>
 Subject:  Re: [m0n0wall] RE: VoIP Vonage Setup Help (IT'S ALIVE)
 Date:  Sun, 4 Jul 2004 22:13:11 -0400
The Vonage version of the Motorola VT1000 does not support VPN pass-through.
Put the Mot out front and you will not do VPN.

Vonage support recommends the Mot behind the router/firewall for VPN.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Staph" <rstaph at digitalimpreza dot com>
To: <m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch>
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] RE: VoIP Vonage Setup Help (IT'S ALIVE)


> Its starting to sound like I did a bad thing hooking up the vonage device
> before my m0n0wall.  Tell me again why it isn't good to do it the way
vonage
> recommends?
>
> -Rob
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mitch (WebCob)" <mitch at webcob dot com>
> To: "Robert Staph" <rstaph at digitalimpreza dot com>; "John Voigt"
> <megeek at wyndhamhills dot com>; <m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch>
> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 6:39 PM
> Subject: RE: [m0n0wall] RE: VoIP Vonage Setup Help (IT'S ALIVE)
>
>
> > Not to drag it too far off topic here, but EVERYONE I've ever talked to
in
> > my region (Canada, BC) has had more difficulty with Cable than with
other
> > connections (ADSL / T1 / ISDN / etc.) due to the bussed nature of the
> > service... The underlying topology is often like old thinnet ethernet...
a
> > common signal shared over many users... so even if YOU set up a shaper,
> > doesn't mean the upstream provider respects it, and when your traffic is
> in
> > contention with other traffic, spikes in latency can cause the problems
> you
> > are seeing - just because they promise 128k/256k doesn't mean they
> > consistantly deliver.
> >
> > You MIGHT find some relief by assuming (for purposes of your rules that
> your
> > pipe is 25% smaller than it is...
> >
> > Just a thought - would like to hear the results.
> >
> > Also, as a thought, is there anywhere people are archiving rules for
> things
> > like this (Vonage, Net2Phone, Quake, etc. etc.) - if not, maybe we
should
> > start a wiki for it?
> >
> > m/
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Robert Staph [mailto:rstaph at digitalimpreza dot com]
> > > Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 1:22 PM
> > > To: John Voigt; m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
> > > Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] RE: VoIP Vonage Setup Help (IT'S ALIVE)
> > >
> > >
> > > You probably have a bigger connection than I do then.  128k/256k is
all
> I
> > > get from the cable company (but it only costs me $10/month).  Other
> people
> > > on connections this size experience similar problems.  And yes my
> > > shaper is
> > > configured perfectly, so that was not the problem.
> > >
> > > -Rob
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "John Voigt" <megeek at wyndhamhills dot com>
> > > To: "Robert Staph" <rstaph at digitalimpreza dot com>;
<m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch>
> > > Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 11:48 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] RE: VoIP Vonage Setup Help (IT'S ALIVE)
> > >
> > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Robert Staph" <rstaph at digitalimpreza dot com>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 10:49 AM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I must state that you will be much happier with your vonage
service
> if
> > > you
> > > > > connect it directly to your cable modem.  Or you'll need to
> > > be sure that
> > > > you
> > > > > never download or upload while your on the vonage phone.  I know
> this
> > > from
> > > > > experience.
> > > > >
> > > > Well, I have a different experience - I have mine behind the
> > > monowall box
> > > > and it's working just dandy with the traffic shaper.  Perhaps
> > > your shaper
> > > > configuration was not properly loaded?
> > > >
> > > > By the way, I have a ReplayTV unit on my network that is sending
shows
> a
> > > lot
> > > > of the time so my network is almost always saturated (the WAN
> > > side) and I
> > > > have absolutely no problems with VOIP calls.  I have the RTV
> > > data in a low
> > > > priority queue and my regular browsing also works just fine.
> > > >
> > > > Setup (pardon the crappy ascii graphics):
> > > >
> > > > \/  <---- antenna for internal Engenius card AP (bridged with LAN)
> > > >  |
> > > > monowall (Soekris)--cable modem
> > > >  |
> > > > switch
> > > >  | | |--Vonage VOIP  (Queue weight 100)
> > > >  | |------Rest of home network (Queue weight 50)
> > > >  |---ReplayTV (Queue weight 1)
> > > >
> > > > Surely there are others successfully using the traffic shaper with
> VOIP.
> > > >
> > > > John Voigt, President
> > > >
> > > > Reston Wireless, LLC
> > > > High speed internet service
> > > > no smoke, no mirrors, no wires (tm)
> > > > http://www.reston-wireless.net/
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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