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 From:  blaue0 <me at blaue0 dot net>
 To:  Graham Dunn <gdunn at inscriber dot com>
 Cc:  m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
 Subject:  Re: [m0n0wall] Problem getting m0n0wall to work
 Date:  Thu, 05 Aug 2004 19:10:54 +0200
Yes that's all correct.

I've changed the configuration as you said. If I ping the box when it's 
connected to the switch using a patch cable, the LED is flickering in a 
regularly time (one time per second). I think the packets arrive a the 
box, but it seams that the box doesn't accept these..

Graham Dunn wrote:

>On Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 06:34:48PM +0200, blaue0 wrote:
>  
>
>>Yes, I do.
>>    
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>
>OK, so to summarize:
>
>- sis0 on the m0n0wall works when you plug a crossover cable between it
>  and the gentoo box.
>
>- sis0 won't work when you plug it into a switch.
>
>- the patch cable is known good.
>
>- the switch ports work (tested between laptop and gentoo).
>
>What's the WAN interface on your m0n0box? Can you swap the LAN and WAN
>interfaces and see if that works?
>
>Graham
>
>  
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>>Graham Dunn wrote:
>>
>>    
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>>>On Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 03:56:44PM +0200, blaue0 wrote:
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>>>>If I run your commands and put in the cable to the switch, I get no 
>>>>connection, no LEDs are green, no flickering, nothing.
>>>>No matter if half or fullduplex...
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>You're replacing the cross over with a normal patch when you do that,
>>>right?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Graham Dunn wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 03:01:21PM +0200, blaue0 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    
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>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm using a noname-switch which can do 10 and 100mbit fullduplex. All 
>>>>>>ports are ok, I get a ping from my laptop to my gentoo machine on all 
>>>>>>ports (just tested).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If I ping the m0n0wall when it's directly connected to the switch, all 
>>>>>>LEDs of the switch where a computer is connected to, begin to flicker 
>>>>>>(I think this is because no port wants to accept the packet..)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>All ports flickering usually means broadcast traffic.
>>>>>
>>>>>My guess is that the sis card in the m0n0wall isn't negotiating
>>>>>correctly with the switch.
>>>>>
>>>>>So, connect the m0n0 to your gentoo directly with a cross over cable,
>>>>>go to http://m0n0-ip/exec.php and 
>>>>>
>>>>>ifconfig sis0 media 100BaseTX mediaopt full-duplex
>>>>>
>>>>>Then unplug the cross over, and plug both machines into the switch.
>>>>>
>>>>>If that doesn't work, try 
>>>>>
>>>>>... mediaopt half-duplex
>>>>>
>>>>>If things are happy then, you'll have to edit your config to make that
>>>>>change permanent.
>>>>>
>>>>>See
>>>>>http://m0n0.ch/wall/list/?action=show_msg&actionargs[]=43&actionargs[]=58
>>>>>on how to download your config file, edit and then restore it.
>>>>>
>>>>>The ifconfig ... part will what you'll insert between
>>>>><shellcmd>...</shellcmd> tags.
>>>>>
>>>>>Graham
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>I used the switch for over a half year now, and I didn't had any 
>>>>>>problems. I'm sure it has autosense for the speed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>># netstat -nr
>>>>>>Kernel IP routing table
>>>>>>Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags   MSS Window  
>>>>>>irtt Iface
>>>>>>192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U         0 0          
>>>>>>0 eth0
>>>>>>127.0.0.0       127.0.0.1       255.0.0.0       UG        0 0          
>>>>>>0 lo
>>>>>>0.0.0.0         192.168.1.1     0.0.0.0         UG        0 0          
>>>>>>0 eth0
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Graham Dunn wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 02:47:14PM +0200, blaue0 wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>># mii-tool eth0
>>>>>>>>eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-FD, link ok
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>What type of switch are you using?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>When box machines are plugged into the switch, and you ping the
>>>>>>>m0n0wall, do the traffic lights on the switch flicker?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Did you say you've used this switch with other machines and had it 
>>>>>>>work?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>What's the default route (netstat -nr) on your gentoo box?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Graham
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Graham Dunn wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 02:34:35PM +0200, blaue0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Ok, I think it's time for some debug output:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>IP configuration of my NIC on my Gentoo machine:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>># ifconfig eth0
>>>>>>>>>>eth0   Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:30:4F:2B:32:D8
>>>>>>>>>> inet addr:192.168.1.2  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
>>>>>>>>>> UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>>>>>>>>>> RX packets:66308 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>>>>>>>>>> TX packets:56775 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>>>>>>>>>> collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
>>>>>>>>>> RX bytes:63189031 (60.2 Mb)  TX bytes:4926310 (4.6 Mb)
>>>>>>>>>> Interrupt:10 Base address:0xac00
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>and IP configuration of my m0n0wall:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>$ ifconfig sis0
>>>>>>>>>>sis0:   flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
>>>>>>>>>>	inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
>>>>>>>>>>	ether 00:0d:b9:00:76:7c
>>>>>>>>>>	media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX <full-duplex>)
>>>>>>>>>>	status: active
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I really think the IP config is ok.
>>>>>>>>>>When I say all ok, I mean I can browse the web, send emails etc.. 
>>>>>>>>>>(Traffic flows).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>What does
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>mii-tool eth0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>on your gentoo say? I wonder if there's a port auto-negotiation
>>>>>>>>>wierdness happening?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>You may have to force your gentoo eth0 to 100BaseT full-duplex.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Graham
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Graham Dunn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 11:08:42PM +0200, blaue0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                      
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks a lot. First: With crossover cable from my machine to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>m0n0, all works fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>I don't know much about electronic and such stuff. I don't know 
>>>>>>>>>>>>if my switch is grounded correctly, but I think it's not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I know, that I have to use https instead of http with HTTPS, but 
>>>>>>>>>>>>it's as I said: nmap shows a completly closed firewall. Not even 
>>>>>>>>>>>>one port is open.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I'm not using the same IP subnet on WAN and LAN interface, the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>LAN is 192.168.1.x and the WAN is assigned by DHCP from my cable 
>>>>>>>>>>>>provider.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I can ping the box with a crossover cable (when it's directly 
>>>>>>>>>>>>connected to my machine), but I can't if it's connected to the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>switch using crossover or patch cable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                        
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Switch <-> machine connections will never use a crossover cable 
>>>>>>>>>>>(unless
>>>>>>>>>>>the port on the switch says MDI-X, in which case you should use 
>>>>>>>>>>>another
>>>>>>>>>>>port). Link lights will come on regardless of if you're using a
>>>>>>>>>>>straight-through, or crossover, so that's not a reliable 
>>>>>>>>>>>diagnostic.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Your cables are known good, right (I think you mentioned using 
>>>>>>>>>>>them with
>>>>>>>>>>>a windows ICS setup).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Make sure your machine is in the same subnet as the m0n0wall. 
>>>>>>>>>>>Double
>>>>>>>>>>>check the IP and subnet settings on both the client and the 
>>>>>>>>>>>m0n0wall.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Make sure you're plugging the NIC you think you are into the 
>>>>>>>>>>>switch (LAN
>>>>>>>>>>>vs WAN). I've made this mistake, most annoying :/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>When you say "all works fine" above, do you mean that you can send
>>>>>>>>>>>traffic through the m0n0wall, or just ping it? If traffic flows, 
>>>>>>>>>>>then it
>>>>>>>>>>>sounds like purely a cabling issue, or a broken switch port.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Graham
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                      
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Allan D. Piske wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                        
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi, there maybe a compatibility problem with your switch and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>these adapters,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>If you connect the PC to m0n0 with the crossover cable it works 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>or not?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Remember that grounding can affect data communications as well, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>it's where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>important that every device interconnnected in the LAN are 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>grounded.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>If PC-m0n0 works, and PC-SWITCH-m0n0 doesnt, or your switch is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>broken, or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>you have a serious grounding problem or it's simple ethernet 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>adapter/switch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>imcompatibility ( did i wrote that right? )
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>got it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>sorry about my english too, it's not my primary language.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Allan.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>From: "blaue0" <me at blaue0 dot net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: <m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 5:16 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [m0n0wall] Problem getting m0n0wall to work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>                          
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yes, I'm sure that they are good, I get a connection with these 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>cables
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                      
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                            
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>from my machine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                          
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Unfortunately I don't have any hub or something like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It does light up on the switch with both cables, with both 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>cables
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the light on the switch does flicker a bit... don't know if 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>this is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>important.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I really know the difference between a crossover and a patch 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>cable :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>You said, pinging is disabled by default. If my machine is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>connectet to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the m0n0 by crossover cable, then I get a ping to it. Browsing 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>webinterface doesn't work at all with both cables...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Seth Rothenberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                            
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Are you sure that all the cables you tried are good?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Do you have any other test equipment available?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>eg, a hub, with or without an uplink....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the PC engines should light up a port on the hub
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>with one cable or the other.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>You didn't mention if you are knowledgable about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>cables.  You can check by eye if it is a crossover.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>If the orange and/or green are reversed from one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>end to the other, it is crossover.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>You can test 2 crossover cables with a coupler
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>on a regular cable run.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>These are just some ideas to try...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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